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Islamophobia and a message.
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RE: Islamophobia and a message.
(March 22, 2019 at 3:02 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(March 22, 2019 at 8:23 am)Deesse23 Wrote: I beg to disagree

Same here.  Vlad wasn't ANY kind of a disaster. He was just impulsive and rather hard-headed.

Snappy dresser, though.

Boru

I was saying this in response to Atlas´ claim that all those names/people he mentioned were *disasters to humanity*, but not caused/related to Islam.

Vlad Tepes was a direct and immediate result of Islam. I didnt know this had to be pointed out, even to Atlas.

Vlad, like many other rulers of the balcan/eastern europe tried to keep their independence from the Ottoman empire, which was increasingly pressing towards central Europe.
He (and his brother) were hostages to the Ottomans, with the goal to culturally assimilate them, as was common since at least the roman empire. Holding other countries´ rulers kids as hostage is not very *nice*, frankly. Wallachia also had to pay hefty tribute and the Ottomans regularly forced them to hand over young boys to be also culturally assimilated and taken to the Janissary guard. Vlads methods to fight the ottomans can be disputed, but they equal guerilla warfare, like it was conducted by the VC in Vetnam. He didnt have much choices, given the fact that the hungarian King between him and the german emperor fucked him out of self interest.

Regarding tactics and military prowess in general i would like to introduce Stefan Cel Mare a contemporary (and supporter) of Vlad, and the Battle of Vaslui, .
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Messages In This Thread
Islamophobia and a message. - by WinterHold - March 22, 2019 at 8:10 am
RE: Islamophobia and a message. - by Brian37 - March 22, 2019 at 8:17 am
RE: Islamophobia and a message. - by Drich - March 25, 2019 at 10:51 am
RE: Islamophobia and a message. - by Deesse23 - March 22, 2019 at 8:23 am
RE: Islamophobia and a message. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 22, 2019 at 3:02 pm
RE: Islamophobia and a message. - by fredd bear - March 22, 2019 at 5:13 pm
RE: Islamophobia and a message. - by Deesse23 - March 23, 2019 at 9:36 am
RE: Islamophobia and a message. - by Yonadav - March 26, 2019 at 10:18 am
RE: Islamophobia and a message. - by Deesse23 - March 26, 2019 at 11:54 am
RE: Islamophobia and a message. - by Little lunch - March 23, 2019 at 7:43 am
RE: Islamophobia and a message. - by Brian37 - March 23, 2019 at 11:52 am
RE: Islamophobia and a message. - by Angrboda - March 23, 2019 at 8:46 am
RE: Islamophobia and a message. - by brewer - March 23, 2019 at 12:18 pm
RE: Islamophobia and a message. - by Brian37 - March 23, 2019 at 12:30 pm
RE: Islamophobia and a message. - by Duty - March 23, 2019 at 3:48 pm
RE: Islamophobia and a message. - by fredd bear - March 23, 2019 at 5:33 pm
RE: Islamophobia and a message. - by Amarok - March 23, 2019 at 10:32 pm
RE: Islamophobia and a message. - by tackattack - March 23, 2019 at 11:27 pm
RE: Islamophobia and a message. - by Equinox25 - March 24, 2019 at 4:28 am
RE: Islamophobia and a message. - by The Grand Nudger - March 25, 2019 at 10:55 am
RE: Islamophobia and a message. - by Drich - March 26, 2019 at 10:02 am
RE: Islamophobia and a message. - by The Grand Nudger - March 26, 2019 at 10:07 am

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