(April 2, 2019 at 1:21 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:(April 2, 2019 at 1:08 pm)Drich Wrote: 1. See the post I made before this one,as it address your character fault in identifying altruism as being a prepackaged gift.
2. if you give a man 10k without any though before or after you could very well be his murderer. Maybe to those who do not like to think or be responsible for other altrusim begins and ends with nothing more than a monetary gesture, when in truth this is a self serving self aggrandizing act. Because you do not know how 100K would help or hurt this man..
There was a justin timber lake movie that illustrates this this it iwas a futurist movie where all currency was based on time. everyone had a bio clock on their arm that counted down to their death... whell here let me see if I can find a clip.
in the movie will/justin has a looser buddy (leonard from big bang) leonard his a drunk and braggart. so as you see in the clip will is given 100+ years which is like a billion dollars so he lke you suggests gives his buddy 25 years where he goes and promptly goes straight to the bar despite all the bill his family owes and the limite time his wife has on her clock leonard goes to the bar and drinks himself to death with decades on his life clock. (you can still die of things with time on your clock, which the clock can not account for.)
Now according to you this is what altruism is. to give without thought or regard to the individual as you assume everyone just need money to make their lives better when in fact if you ever bother to truly work with the poor you would know money is why they are poor, rather their inability to manage it rather than the money managing them. Meaning in most situations giving a truly poor person a ton of cash is like giving a starving person al the bread they can eat. meaning they would kill themselves eating.
True altruism is giving you what you need when you need it so as to progress your life to the end goal of eternal life with God. it is knowing when to hold back and when to open the floodgates it is also knowing when opening the floodgates would drown the person rather than helping them!
Which is exactly what God does, which is why I was asking for specific examples of God not being altruistic. rather than a diagnosis on whether you think I can contemplate the ter or not.
*indulgent chuckle* The money was simply an example, as you seem to have trouble grasping what altruism is, per the definition you posted.
I've provided you with examples of God not being altruistic, I don't feel the need to repeat them.
Boru
and in the example above I conclusively shown you how your examples of altruism where in fact the opposite of altruism and broardered on the lines of murder As if you give a monkey a gun and he kills himself or someone it is not the fault of the monkey. You version of altruism potentially puts guns in the hands of everyone, as there is little to no thought behind any of it.
To that end I have no problem repeating what I have said until we get to the point where you actually read a response rather than try and sweep the topic under a rug like an out moted priest in a evolution discussion, with a "because i said so."
If I have already backed you into a corner with a justin timberlake movie, then maybe it is better you chuckle and move on.

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