(April 2, 2019 at 1:33 pm)Drich Wrote:(April 2, 2019 at 1:21 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: *indulgent chuckle* The money was simply an example, as you seem to have trouble grasping what altruism is, per the definition you posted.
I've provided you with examples of God not being altruistic, I don't feel the need to repeat them.
Boru
and in the example above I conclusively shown you how your examples of altruism where in fact the opposite of altruism and broardered on the lines of murder As if you give a monkey a gun and he kills himself or someone it is not the fault of the monkey. You version of altruism potentially puts guns in the hands of everyone, as there is little to no thought behind any of it.
To that end I have no problem repeating what I have said until we get to the point where you actually read a response rather than try and sweep the topic under a rug like an out moted priest in a evolution discussion, with a "because i said so."
If I have already backed you into a corner with a justin timberlake movie, then maybe it is better you chuckle and move on.
toppled by timberlake
I read your replies, but that seemed to be pretty far from the point. The outcome of an act has no bearing whatsoever on whether or not that act was altruistic. All that matters is why the act was done.
As I said earlier, it is perfectly plausible that God as described does good things for people and makes their lives wonderful (or at least better). But if prayer or belief is required for God to act, then God isn't altruistic. Similarly, if I give the bum mentioned earlier a great walloping wad of cash with no conditions or expectations and he is murdered for the money thirty seconds later, my original act was still altruistic.
I don't know why you're having trouble grasping this.
Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson