(April 3, 2019 at 10:42 am)Kit Wrote:(April 3, 2019 at 10:36 am)Acrobat Wrote: The dishonesty is imagining that you have no burden of proof when making such a claim.
It’s like a holocaust denier claiming the holocaust didn’t happen, and proclaiming he has no burden of proof to demonstrate this, only those who claim it did, do.
The burden of proof resides with the one making the positive claim of something existing when there is no evidence of its existence.
That is literally how burden of proof works in relation to religious subjects.
If I was to state that leprechauns do not exist, it would be absurd to claim that the burden of proof is to prove something doesn't exist.
If it doesn't exist, obviously it doesn't exist and the burden only resides on the one making the claim of existence.
Lol, that's not "literally" how the burden of proof works.
" whoever makes a claim carries the burden of proof regardless of positive or negative content in the claim."
"Onus probandi incumbit ei qui dicit, non ei qui negat is the obligation on a party in a dispute to provide sufficient warrant for their position."
"When two parties are in a discussion and one makes a claim that the other disputes, the one who makes the claim typically has a burden of proof to justify or substantiate that claim especially when it challenges a perceived status quo.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_...hilosophy)
You're the one making the claim that God isn't real. And you resorting to dishonesty in suggesting that you have no obligation or burden of proof to support this claim. That you can make it, and take refuge in suggesting you have no burden of proof. How much more dishonest could you get?
The only in which you wouldn't have a burden of proof, is by not making such a claim at all.
Quote:You can easily ascertain that I am married by taking a trip to where I live, to meet me and my husband, etc. The same can be stated for those who have never seen something in a foreign land. The ill logic in comparison is sickening, and not in a good way.
No I can’t easily do that. But I’m speaking about the present state of things. That I have no evidence that you’re married. Even if it were impossible for me to obtain evidence one way or the other, for whatever reason, the only honest conclusion would be to say I don’t know one way or the other, and not as result of the absence of evidence I should hold that you’re not married.