RE: Intelligent design
April 4, 2019 at 1:49 pm
(This post was last modified: April 4, 2019 at 1:54 pm by Drich.)
(April 4, 2019 at 1:15 pm)Nihilist Virus Wrote:the order in which the things where created where the order from which they where seeded. that said there is no hebrew word for birds specifically, ancient hebrew is not a genius species organized langage. the hebrews had 3 classification in which to identify life things the flew, things the walk or crawled and things the swam. So "birds" would include flying insects. all things that had wings was 'seeded' in verse 20 of chapter 1(April 4, 2019 at 1:08 pm)Drich Wrote: are you stupid or just forgetful?
I have completely assimilated the whole of evolution into creationism, and have been teaching this from like the first week i got to this web site.
Not one of you have been able to put a dent in my hypothesis that combines the two theories. It does not change one word of the bible nor one word of evolution. it does what i did here. it simply takes off the presupposed times lines religious people on the bible 1000s of years after the fact.
In short chapter 1:1 to chapter 2:3 tell of the seven creation of the world only, with evolved man being seeded the 6th day by the Father
While chapter 2:4 is the telling of the Work of the word/Jesus in the garden starting mid day 3 and ending mid day 4. this includes the creation of the garden and everything in it apart from the father's 7 days of creation. While God the father creates evolved man out side the garden on day six Jesus creates adam with a soul on day 3. now from the end on chapter two which is end of day 4 to the beginning of chapter 3 is where I am saying all of evolution takes place.
Now 6000 to 10000 years ago was when chapter 3 begins and the fall of man happens. but before then Adam lived as a imortal being with God in the garden with eve for however long 'science say needed to happen for the rest of the world to evolve to the point where the garden was 6000 years ago.
Again I have not changed a single word in the bible just re examined how it is read and eliminated the artificial time lines. which again allow for full scientific dawin evoution to happen in a seven day creation
Why did birds evolve before land animals? How did the earth exist before the sun? How was mankind the product of evolution if Adam was created out of dust and a "helper" had to be made from his rib?
Newsflash: you aren't a genius. You didn't figure out how to reconcile the Bible with science. Don't you think they would do this if they could?
עוֹף
Transliteration
`owph
Pronunciation
ōfe (Key)
Part of Speech
masculine noun
Root Word (Etymology)
From (H5774)
Dictionary Aids
TWOT Reference: 1582a
KJV Translation Count — Total: 71x
The KJV translates Strong's H5775 in the following manner: fowl (59x), bird (9x), flying (2x), flieth (1x).
Outline of Biblical Usage [?]
- flying creatures, fowl, insects, birds
- fowl, birds
- winged insects
Not according to my research.animals 410 to 440 years ago flying insects 412 to 479,000,000
what else sport?
oh, light vers the sun.. how f-ing stupid do you have to be to not know the sun is not the only source of light on this planet?
For God sakes son, what happens when the sun goes down at your house.. you turn on a mf-ing light right? so.. in your estimation creating light without the sun is a man only thing? are lights just out of the reach of the creator in your estimation? or do you assume edison was a satanist and refused to let God have access to his patent?

1) God on day one could have just created the whole light spectrum, meaning could have created visual light, or all of it's components, which works the same way with or without the sun as a light source (if you want to argue this google some shite first) or at the very least... from a writter's/moses spective being sat on a cold wet naked earth the first thing the writer saw was the light of God. so to the man writting the first thig he saw happen was God's light hovering over the dark waters.
2)
Adam and eve were apart of chapter 2 which again the bible points out went on separately/during the 7 days of creation God the father was doing in chapter 1.
EVOLVED Man again happens outside the garden in chapter one on day 6
Adam and eve were special creation which included a soul that evolved man did not have. So eve was made from adam and adam's children after the exodus of the garden marr the evolved men and women and their children have souls as a result.
I may not be a smart man but I know who God is.

(and as a result I get to borrow access to his smarts,[what i can figure anyway] which is why I took your argument apart without effort.)
(April 4, 2019 at 1:18 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote:(April 4, 2019 at 1:15 pm)Nihilist Virus Wrote: Why did birds evolve before land animals? How did the earth exist before the sun? How was mankind the product of evolution if Adam was created out of dust and a "helper" had to be made from his rib?Ah but you see theists don't have to go into detail or provide evidence, they can just say anything and expect people to agree. After all that's how the bible works.
Newsflash: you aren't a genius. You didn't figure out how to reconcile the Bible with science. Don't you think they would do this if they could?
the evidence is the same as yours moron it just a different hypothesis on how it all comes together.