Do you wish there's a god?

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Can we at least slow it down to a trot?

What people are referring to when they use that term is that in order to derive some ought from any is a person requires at least one evaluative premise.  Any evaluative premise that makes no reference to gods is open to atheists and theists alike.  Positing an evaluative premise that makes reference to gods does not establish that the evaluative premise is objective...and any objective premise that iuncluded a god would not be objective by that inclusion.  If it stands..objectively, it stands regardless of gods. 

All your work is still ahead of you.

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Then clearly you don’t understand the faithful. If you asked them directly you’d find that nearly all theists believe morality is objective, pretty much every Christian apologist argues for this.

Where as atheists like rob who believe morality is subjective are a dime a dozen.

Oh please, I could drop thousands of the comments I just described to you in quotes on the boards over the years, and it's a common view of human failure between the faithful.  Meanwhile, the majority view of ethics in academia is secular moral realism...and if you asked any atheist on this site why they thought that some x was bad..they're going to give you an explicitly or implicitly realist explanation for it.

aaaaand none of this has anything to do with gods, atheists and theists are both people, people are not gods, until you deign to make your position known.  Why don't you just do that?

I'm not talking about academia, I'm talking about on a forum like this, or among everyday atheists. Where people like rob, who believe morality is subjective, are not unicorns, but pretty common. Are you denying that atheists like rob, who claim morality is subjective, are pretty common?

And i've been on atheists forums and boards, likely as long as you. Where it's pretty easy to find atheists who indicate they subscribe to moral subjectivism.