RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
April 22, 2019 at 1:15 am
(This post was last modified: April 22, 2019 at 1:20 am by The Grand Nudger.)
Yabut, "god" made the trees, too. Ipso facto the information in the trees came from a mind, like all information, just not your mind. It's the same ridiculous circle as before with design.
Show a person some undesigned thing, they swear it's also godesigned. Show a person a designed thing that didn't come from any mind, they swear that the thing that did the designing came from a mind, and that that mind in turn came from a god. All of this is obvious, ofc. It's pointless to treat these beliefs as some sort of postulate that the holder will rationally adopt or abandon, because they simply aren't. They have a history as part of a social movement, but beyond that, nada.
Case in point...from the beginning of this thread (and any other "design" thread) a person can adopt a very accepting stance towards the putative claim. That there is some design to life. Sure, okay, we can take that and see that it's compatible, at least in principle, with the facts of biology. We even understand the set of laws and circumstances that produced it - but this won't be acceptable to a creationist, that's not what they're talking about. They don't think things were "designed" any more than they think "information" comes from minds. Natural designs and information have nothing to do with what they're trying to express. They think the answer to every question, and obviously so, is tinker goddidit.
That's it, that's all. The rest is fluff and filler. LOL, a thousand pages of filler. There's no example of design or information that they haven't already decided somehow ultimately comes from tinkergod, because their belief that all things ultimately come from the tinker god is the only thing informing these assertions - none of which...despite constant protestations to the contrary, are actually informing their belief in the tinkergod.
Show a person some undesigned thing, they swear it's also godesigned. Show a person a designed thing that didn't come from any mind, they swear that the thing that did the designing came from a mind, and that that mind in turn came from a god. All of this is obvious, ofc. It's pointless to treat these beliefs as some sort of postulate that the holder will rationally adopt or abandon, because they simply aren't. They have a history as part of a social movement, but beyond that, nada.
Case in point...from the beginning of this thread (and any other "design" thread) a person can adopt a very accepting stance towards the putative claim. That there is some design to life. Sure, okay, we can take that and see that it's compatible, at least in principle, with the facts of biology. We even understand the set of laws and circumstances that produced it - but this won't be acceptable to a creationist, that's not what they're talking about. They don't think things were "designed" any more than they think "information" comes from minds. Natural designs and information have nothing to do with what they're trying to express. They think the answer to every question, and obviously so, is tinker goddidit.
That's it, that's all. The rest is fluff and filler. LOL, a thousand pages of filler. There's no example of design or information that they haven't already decided somehow ultimately comes from tinkergod, because their belief that all things ultimately come from the tinker god is the only thing informing these assertions - none of which...despite constant protestations to the contrary, are actually informing their belief in the tinkergod.
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