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[split] PSA: Hate Speech (discussion of video etc)
RE: PSA: Hate Speech
(April 28, 2019 at 5:17 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(April 28, 2019 at 3:19 pm)pocaracas Wrote: Just to make it clear for someone who asked this earlier... was it boru?

That's like saying that no one is confused about the provocative use of miniskirt's possibility of resulting in rape. (not sure about the grammatical correctness here, but I hope the point gets through)
It's not senseless rape... it's provoked, clearly!  Dodgy  Clap

Right.  Consider the eerie similarities between miniskirts and the n-word:

-Miniskirt wearers were taken from their homes and sold into slavery.

-Miniskirt wearers were treated no better than farm animals for 400 years.

-Since brute force and lynchings are no longer acceptable, the miniskirt vote is repressed by gerrymandering and voter ID laws targeting people in miniskirt-heavy districts

-The term 'miniskirter' has such vile connotations that it is (almost) universally shunned as being unusually derogatory, defamatory and dehumanizing.

-The term 'miniskirter' (sorry to keep using the word without censoring) has bigots, racists and longskirters constructing long, convoluted, insane arguments as to why they should be allowed to use it.

-Secret and not-so-secret societies exist for the express purpose of denying civil rights to people in miniskirts.

-Miniskirt wearers are disproportionately imprisoned and given harsher sentences than longskirters.

Yeah.  They're the same.

Boru

They don't have to be "the same" to be analogous. Whether the differences are relevant to the similarities and the claimed similarity matters in determining whether it is or is not a valid analogy.



(April 28, 2019 at 6:28 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
Quote:I say you are endorsing violence through victim blaming, so shame on you!

I'm not saying it's ok to say the word, given the shitty past it represents and the far from ideal present. But I'm saying that accepting violence as a response to hearing the word is not the best attitude that society can take on its way to doing away with the racist intent with which it is often (but not always) used.

You can say I'm endorsing violence all you like, it won't make it true.  You have either missed or chosen to ignore the bit where I said that I would have no problem if the young men in the video were brought up on charges (personally, I probably would have thrown a punch at 'punk-ass motherfucker', but that's just me).  If I were truly victim blaming, I would be contending that the young men who beat up that idiot did nothing wrong.  That's not the case.

Victim blaming is about the assignment of responsibility to the victim. It doesn't matter if you also assign blame to the perpetrator as that's a non sequitur.
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RE: PSA: Slurs - by Gawdzilla Sama - April 25, 2019 at 11:29 am
RE: PSA: Slurs - by Yonadav - April 25, 2019 at 6:03 pm
RE: PSA: Slurs - by Shell B - April 25, 2019 at 6:04 pm
RE: PSA: Slurs - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - April 25, 2019 at 6:41 pm
RE: PSA: Slurs - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - April 25, 2019 at 6:43 pm
RE: PSA: Slurs - by Athene - April 25, 2019 at 7:28 pm
RE: PSA: Slurs - by Yonadav - April 25, 2019 at 8:33 pm
RE: PSA: Slurs - by LadyForCamus - April 25, 2019 at 9:30 pm
RE: PSA: Slurs - by Yonadav - April 25, 2019 at 9:52 pm
RE: PSA: Slurs - by Athene - April 25, 2019 at 9:55 pm
RE: PSA: Slurs - by LadyForCamus - April 25, 2019 at 10:03 pm
RE: PSA: Slurs - by Yonadav - April 25, 2019 at 10:15 pm
RE: PSA: Slurs - by Athene - April 25, 2019 at 11:04 pm
RE: PSA: Slurs - by Yonadav - April 25, 2019 at 11:26 pm
RE: PSA: Slurs - by Losty - April 25, 2019 at 11:30 pm
RE: PSA: Slurs - by Athene - April 25, 2019 at 11:36 pm
RE: PSA: Slurs - by Huggy Bear - April 26, 2019 at 10:12 am
RE: PSA: Slurs - by Yonadav - April 26, 2019 at 10:50 am
RE: PSA: Slurs - by Huggy Bear - April 26, 2019 at 11:49 am
RE: PSA: Slurs - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - April 26, 2019 at 11:51 am
RE: PSA: Slurs - by pocaracas - April 26, 2019 at 12:27 pm
RE: PSA: Slurs - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - April 26, 2019 at 12:29 pm
RE: PSA: Slurs - by pocaracas - April 26, 2019 at 12:31 pm
RE: PSA: Slurs - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - April 26, 2019 at 12:36 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Silver - April 26, 2019 at 12:38 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - April 26, 2019 at 12:40 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Shell B - April 26, 2019 at 1:09 pm
RE: PSA: Slurs - by pocaracas - April 26, 2019 at 1:40 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Shell B - April 26, 2019 at 2:12 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by pocaracas - April 26, 2019 at 2:27 pm
RE: PSA: Slurs - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - April 26, 2019 at 2:34 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Shell B - April 26, 2019 at 3:13 pm
RE: PSA: Slurs - by Gawdzilla Sama - April 26, 2019 at 3:19 pm
RE: PSA: Slurs - by Huggy Bear - April 26, 2019 at 4:44 pm
RE: PSA: Slurs - by Athene - April 26, 2019 at 4:49 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by LastPoet - April 26, 2019 at 4:50 pm
RE: PSA: Slurs - by Athene - April 26, 2019 at 4:55 pm
RE: PSA: Slurs - by Yonadav - April 26, 2019 at 5:17 pm
RE: PSA: Slurs - by Gawdzilla Sama - April 26, 2019 at 6:00 pm
RE: PSA: Slurs - by pocaracas - April 26, 2019 at 6:38 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Losty - April 26, 2019 at 6:41 pm
RE: PSA: Slurs - by pocaracas - April 26, 2019 at 6:41 pm
RE: PSA: Slurs - by Losty - April 26, 2019 at 6:46 pm
RE: PSA: Slurs - by pocaracas - April 26, 2019 at 6:49 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by The Grand Nudger - April 26, 2019 at 6:52 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Losty - April 26, 2019 at 7:03 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by The Grand Nudger - April 26, 2019 at 7:04 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Yonadav - April 26, 2019 at 7:11 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by The Grand Nudger - April 26, 2019 at 7:12 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Losty - April 26, 2019 at 7:13 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by The Grand Nudger - April 26, 2019 at 7:15 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Yonadav - April 26, 2019 at 7:19 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by The Grand Nudger - April 26, 2019 at 7:20 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Losty - April 26, 2019 at 7:20 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Losty - April 26, 2019 at 7:22 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by The Grand Nudger - April 26, 2019 at 7:23 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Losty - April 26, 2019 at 7:24 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Cod - April 26, 2019 at 7:26 pm
RE: PSA: Slurs - by Athene - April 26, 2019 at 7:39 pm
RE: PSA: Slurs - by Athene - April 26, 2019 at 7:46 pm
RE: PSA: Slurs - by Yonadav - April 26, 2019 at 8:00 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by The Grand Nudger - April 26, 2019 at 8:10 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Yonadav - April 26, 2019 at 8:36 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Cod - April 26, 2019 at 8:40 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Yonadav - April 26, 2019 at 8:59 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by The Grand Nudger - April 26, 2019 at 9:12 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by LadyForCamus - April 26, 2019 at 9:50 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Amarok - April 26, 2019 at 10:29 pm
RE: PSA: Slurs - by Athene - April 26, 2019 at 10:31 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Amarok - April 26, 2019 at 10:31 pm
RE: PSA: Slurs - by Yonadav - April 27, 2019 at 12:04 am
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Losty - April 27, 2019 at 12:34 am
RE: PSA: Slurs - by Athene - April 27, 2019 at 12:40 am
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Amarok - April 27, 2019 at 12:43 am
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by LastPoet - April 27, 2019 at 6:18 am
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - April 27, 2019 at 6:25 am
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by LastPoet - April 27, 2019 at 8:31 am
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by onlinebiker - April 27, 2019 at 9:49 am
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Huggy Bear - April 28, 2019 at 1:35 am
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Losty - April 28, 2019 at 1:37 am
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Angrboda - April 28, 2019 at 10:01 am
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Gawdzilla Sama - April 28, 2019 at 10:08 am
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Silver - April 28, 2019 at 12:16 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Losty - April 28, 2019 at 12:19 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Silver - April 28, 2019 at 12:21 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Losty - April 28, 2019 at 12:22 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Silver - April 28, 2019 at 12:25 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Huggy Bear - April 28, 2019 at 2:49 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Jackalope - April 28, 2019 at 3:15 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by pocaracas - April 28, 2019 at 3:19 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Huggy Bear - April 28, 2019 at 4:01 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Shell B - April 28, 2019 at 4:04 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Cod - April 28, 2019 at 4:07 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by pocaracas - April 28, 2019 at 4:14 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Athene - April 28, 2019 at 4:49 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by madog - April 28, 2019 at 4:55 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by pocaracas - April 28, 2019 at 4:59 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by madog - April 28, 2019 at 5:02 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Losty - April 28, 2019 at 5:15 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - April 28, 2019 at 5:17 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Shell B - April 28, 2019 at 5:58 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by pocaracas - April 28, 2019 at 6:05 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - April 28, 2019 at 6:28 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by pocaracas - April 28, 2019 at 6:49 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - April 28, 2019 at 8:37 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by pocaracas - April 29, 2019 at 3:36 am
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - April 29, 2019 at 6:24 am
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by pocaracas - April 29, 2019 at 7:46 am
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Angrboda - April 29, 2019 at 7:57 am
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by madog - April 29, 2019 at 9:22 am
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by tackattack - April 29, 2019 at 9:30 am
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by pocaracas - April 29, 2019 at 10:05 am
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by madog - April 29, 2019 at 10:50 am
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Shell B - April 29, 2019 at 11:26 am
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by pocaracas - April 29, 2019 at 12:42 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by madog - April 29, 2019 at 1:15 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Aegon - April 29, 2019 at 1:26 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Athene - April 29, 2019 at 1:42 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by pocaracas - April 29, 2019 at 4:05 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by madog - April 29, 2019 at 4:59 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Athene - April 29, 2019 at 5:10 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by madog - April 29, 2019 at 5:24 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Athene - April 29, 2019 at 9:19 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by madog - April 29, 2019 at 9:49 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Shell B - April 29, 2019 at 10:32 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Gawdzilla Sama - April 30, 2019 at 11:14 am
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Shell B - April 30, 2019 at 12:42 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Gawdzilla Sama - April 30, 2019 at 2:08 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by pocaracas - April 30, 2019 at 4:00 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Gawdzilla Sama - April 30, 2019 at 4:26 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Shell B - April 30, 2019 at 5:13 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Athene - April 30, 2019 at 11:50 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Huggy Bear - May 1, 2019 at 1:54 am
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by pocaracas - May 1, 2019 at 3:53 am
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Gawdzilla Sama - May 1, 2019 at 11:09 am
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Losty - May 1, 2019 at 11:21 am
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Gawdzilla Sama - May 1, 2019 at 11:35 am
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by brewer - May 1, 2019 at 11:57 am
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Losty - May 1, 2019 at 12:10 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Gawdzilla Sama - May 1, 2019 at 12:11 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by onlinebiker - May 1, 2019 at 12:16 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Gawdzilla Sama - May 1, 2019 at 1:10 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by onlinebiker - May 1, 2019 at 2:01 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Gawdzilla Sama - May 1, 2019 at 2:09 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Shell B - May 1, 2019 at 3:15 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Gawdzilla Sama - May 1, 2019 at 3:22 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Athene - May 1, 2019 at 3:28 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by pocaracas - May 1, 2019 at 4:17 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Losty - May 1, 2019 at 4:22 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by pocaracas - May 1, 2019 at 4:31 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Losty - May 1, 2019 at 4:40 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Gawdzilla Sama - May 1, 2019 at 4:44 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by LadyForCamus - May 1, 2019 at 5:04 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Gawdzilla Sama - May 1, 2019 at 5:04 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Athene - May 1, 2019 at 5:09 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by pocaracas - May 1, 2019 at 5:13 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by LadyForCamus - May 1, 2019 at 5:21 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Gawdzilla Sama - May 1, 2019 at 5:32 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by LadyForCamus - May 1, 2019 at 5:43 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Shell B - May 1, 2019 at 5:44 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Losty - May 1, 2019 at 5:54 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by LadyForCamus - May 1, 2019 at 5:54 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by LadyForCamus - May 1, 2019 at 5:56 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Gawdzilla Sama - May 1, 2019 at 6:00 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Draconic Aiur - May 1, 2019 at 6:02 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Gawdzilla Sama - May 1, 2019 at 6:03 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Losty - May 1, 2019 at 6:05 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Draconic Aiur - May 1, 2019 at 6:06 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Gawdzilla Sama - May 1, 2019 at 6:07 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Draconic Aiur - May 1, 2019 at 6:08 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Losty - May 1, 2019 at 6:15 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Shell B - May 1, 2019 at 6:22 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Gawdzilla Sama - May 1, 2019 at 6:30 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Shell B - May 1, 2019 at 6:34 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Gawdzilla Sama - May 1, 2019 at 7:04 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by onlinebiker - May 1, 2019 at 7:14 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Gawdzilla Sama - May 1, 2019 at 8:02 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by SteelCurtain - May 1, 2019 at 8:04 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Gawdzilla Sama - May 1, 2019 at 8:08 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Losty - May 1, 2019 at 8:18 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Gawdzilla Sama - May 1, 2019 at 8:22 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Losty - May 1, 2019 at 8:33 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by arewethereyet - May 1, 2019 at 8:38 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Draconic Aiur - May 1, 2019 at 8:43 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Losty - May 1, 2019 at 8:47 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by madog - May 1, 2019 at 8:52 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Shell B - May 1, 2019 at 9:21 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Shell B - May 1, 2019 at 9:34 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by pocaracas - May 2, 2019 at 2:21 am
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 2, 2019 at 7:03 am
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Gawdzilla Sama - May 2, 2019 at 7:21 am
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Angrboda - May 2, 2019 at 8:17 am
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 2, 2019 at 11:03 am
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by LastPoet - May 2, 2019 at 4:28 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Gawdzilla Sama - May 2, 2019 at 5:14 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by LadyForCamus - May 2, 2019 at 5:39 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Gawdzilla Sama - May 2, 2019 at 5:50 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by LadyForCamus - May 2, 2019 at 9:37 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Shell B - May 2, 2019 at 6:42 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Gawdzilla Sama - May 2, 2019 at 6:48 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Shell B - May 2, 2019 at 8:49 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Gawdzilla Sama - May 3, 2019 at 5:39 am
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by LadyForCamus - May 3, 2019 at 12:03 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 2, 2019 at 6:56 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Gawdzilla Sama - May 2, 2019 at 7:00 pm
RE: PSA: Hate Speech - by Shell B - May 2, 2019 at 8:51 pm

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