RE: Nondualism vs Dualism
May 1, 2019 at 7:34 pm
(This post was last modified: May 1, 2019 at 7:36 pm by Simon Moon.)
(May 1, 2019 at 2:07 pm)Won2blv Wrote:(April 30, 2019 at 4:01 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: I guess the difference between us, is a care if my beliefs are true, or likely true. I want to have as many true beliefs and as few false beliefs as possible. You don't seem to have this same desire.
At least, you are not using the best set of epidemiological tools known, to get you to true beliefs. Muslims, Hindus, Christians, Zoroastrians, etc, all get to mutually exclusive beliefs, using similar methods as you have; subjective feelings and what is 'real to them'.
I don't care what is 'real to you', I care what is demonstrably real.
As far as Mormonism goes, the only religion that I can think of that is more obviously made up by a single person, is Scientology. The claims of Joseph Smith are so obviously made up, it is laughable. Sorry if this sounds insulting.
As far as Mormonism goes, I have a subjective experience that helps me relate to Joseph Smith, but I agree with what he concluded about religion. None of them teach the truth but truth could be found through personal revelation.
Not sure how this can be true, when there are Muslims, Christians, Mormons, Hindus who claim to have personal revelation that are all mutually exclusive. A Hindu personal revelation, is not going to agree with a personal revelation of a Muslim. They can't all be right, but they can all be wrong.
And again, I can't help but go back to schizophrenics who have varying personal revelations from all sorts of beings.
How are you able to tell the difference between a 'real' personal revelation, and one caused by mental illness?
Quote:And I do care if my beliefs are true or not. I just know that there is a reason so many humans yearn for a creation narrative that they can understand and relate to. I know my personal beliefs will never interfere with me knowing if something is true scientifically or not
That is just sad to me. I am not sure how you cannot see that this attitude, if applied to other aspects of your life, can be dangerous.
Quote:I know my personal beliefs will never interfere with me knowing if something is true scientifically or not
I don't believe that is true.
If your mind is such that you accept completely unsupported and irrational beliefs in one subject, it may be that you are setting yourself to believe other unsupported and irrational beliefs.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
