Nondualism vs Dualism

[Jehanne]

Okay, then we disagree.  At the heart of reality are the Conservation Laws, or, to quote Professor Bart Ehrman, "Bars of Ivory Soap float but bars of iron sink."  This is why people do not walk on water; now, if someone did, I would actively look for fraud, but if that was not present and could be excluded, I would convert to "whatever" religion that claimant asked me to believe in.

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Look, everytime a believer debates a skeptic they throw out stupid fucking examples like  ... If they cut their head off and walked back in with the scars on their neck and their head back on would I believe in the supernatural  .... Its total bullshit ...

If you went out and saw jurasic dinosaurs being chased by green goblins on chariots of flying fish, would you believe in God?
In all cases my belief in reality would be seriously shaken, I would probably question my own sanity ... but wouldn't go scurrying around trying to fit a supernatural deity to the craziness ....

To cut a long story short  ... the incredulous examples those that believe in the supernatural offer as a gotcha's are so dishonest.

Lets face it if someone did agree to this nonesense  ... then you/they would offer totally mundane evidence for your/their stance and expect belief 

Hardly.  Even Professor Richard Dawkins, in The God Delusion, discusses the following experiment:

The STEP project

Harvard professor Herbert Benson performed a "Study of the Therapeutic Effects of Intercessory Prayer (STEP)" in 2006.[39] The STEP, commonly called the "Templeton Foundation prayer study" or "Great Prayer Experiment", used 1,802 coronary artery bypass surgery patients at six hospitals. Using double-blind protocols, patients were randomized into three groups, individual prayer receptiveness was not measured. The members of the experimental and control Groups 1 and 2 were informed they might or might not receive prayers, and only Group 1 received prayers. Group 3, which served as a test for possible psychosomatic effects, was informed they would receive prayers and subsequently did. Unlike some other studies, STEP attempted to standardize the prayer method. Only first names and last initial for patients were provided and no photographs were supplied. The congregations of three Christian churches who prayed for the patients "were allowed to pray in their own manner, but they were instructed to include the following phrase in their prayers: "for a successful surgery with a quick, healthy recovery and no complications".[40] Some participants complained that this mechanical way they were told to pray as part of the experiment was unusual for them. Complications of surgery occurred in 52 percent of those who received prayer (Group 1), 51 percent of those who did not receive it (Group 2), and 59 percent of patients who knew they would receive prayers (Group 3). There were no statistically significant differences in major complications or thirty-day mortality. In The God Delusion, evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins wrote, "It seems more probable that those patients who knew they were being prayed for suffered additional stress in consequence: performance anxiety', as the experimenters put it. Dr Charles Bethea, one of the researchers, said, "It may have made them uncertain, wondering am I so sick they had to call in their prayer team?'"[41] Study co-author Jeffery Dusek stated that: "Each study builds on others, and STEP advanced the design beyond what had been previously done. The findings, however, could well be due to the study limitations."[42] Team leader Benson stated that STEP was not the last word on the effects of intercessory prayer and that questions raised by the study will require additional answers.[43]

Wikipedia -- The Step Project

Now, if the results had been positive, then the researches would have demonstrated a causal link between individuals uttering words and the outcomes of patients getting better or worse.  Maybe you would disagree, and that's fine.  For me, under such controlled conditions, atheism would have been disproven, provided that the experiment could be replicated.  At that point, I, as an atheist, would renounce my atheism and become a believer, at least in a theistic God.

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If you're watching a magic trick, how good would the magician need to be to convince you that he was doing something supernatural ?

In other words, he was performing "real magic".

Let me state the question another way.

How gullible do you need to be to believe that a magic trick is actually supernatural ?

That's why peer-reviewed scientific journals exist; if something "magical" would find its way into one of those, I would begin to give such serious consideration.  Until then, I routinely dismiss such claims as not being worth my time.  In academia, there is a saying that, "No bad a research paper is, there is some journal somewhere who is willing to publish it."  Goes to show how pitiful the claims to the supernatural and/or paranormal are, in that they have little published in the way of scientific studies to support any of their claims.