Defending Pantheism

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Anyhoo...in a pantheistic objective morality, morality would be among the long list of natural facts the same as any other.  Part of what they consider god, but not dependent on some god to be true, since that's not how facts work in the first place.

You in other post and discussion, have indicated that what you consider a natural fact, in regards to morality, is purely a matter of descriptive elements, like. x is harmful, where the ought is not a natural fact. It's not a natural fact that I ought not do harm, in your view of morality.

In some views, pantheistic, etc... the "ought" is as much a natural fact (a part of the fabric of reality) as the "is", as sort of intrinsic laws of the cosmos, as the buddhist scholar Bodhi put it, even if you don't agree with that view.

I'm giving Vulcan the opportunity to articulate his views, rather than naively assuming they align with yours. These sort of non-Dawkins/Dennett/Coyne type atheists that seems sympathetic to spiritual views of reality, subscribe to ideas like the numinous, are a new found curiosity, and I like to give each individual an opportunity to elaborate on their perspectives.