RE: Somebody came up to me offering to pray for me today
May 3, 2019 at 10:58 pm
(This post was last modified: May 3, 2019 at 11:17 pm by WinterHold.)
(May 3, 2019 at 9:43 pm)Losty Wrote:(May 3, 2019 at 9:24 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: They have minds and had their consciousness with them before going on with their crimes, they thought about the pain they will inflict and chose to either enjoy it or suppress it. They are not innocent, Losty. They don't deserve my prayer because they are guilty.
By your logic, you shouldn’t pray for anyone, everyone is guilty in Abrahamic religions. Everyone is a sinner and all sins apart from blasphemy are equal. Not that that matters, because you entirely missed my point. No one needs to be innocent in order to be deserving of help. I don’t believe in prayer, but when I did I always prayed for people who I thought needed it the most not people who I thought deserved it. This whole idea that someone needs to be deserving of prayer before god will help them goes against everything that most religion teaches. No one is worthy.
Prayer must be a personal thing carried out as a way of communication with God. Why wait for somebody else to do it for you if you really wanted God?
In Arabic; this is called "Shafa'ah":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shafa%27ah
I believe that you must be innocent to get an intercession, otherwise you are asking God to betray his own words and excuse a criminal.
(May 3, 2019 at 9:46 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote:The fitrah will stay there in the background, all what surrounds it is static that came either from the mouth of Satan or from our darker side, the problem is when somebody allows the static to cover up their fitrah -like Adam and Eve did-. We will always get static stuck to our spirits, covering our fitrah and turning us into...copied versions of Satan, but we can try our best to remove that static, and God's mercy will clean the rest.(May 3, 2019 at 9:24 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: They have minds and had their consciousness with them before going on with their crimes, they thought about the pain they will inflict and chose to either enjoy it or suppress it. They are not innocent, Losty. They don't deserve my prayer because they are guilty.
-as are we all, to hear the story told. If "allah" were to punish men for their wrongdoing, he would not leave a single living creature on the earth. We may be born in a state of fitrah, but it's not possible to maintain it in the long run, and, as with adam, when a man repents the lord will turn to him, he is, after all, the most merciful.
Don't get me wrong, I don't believe the stuff in your magic book..but I kindof expect you to, lol.