(May 17, 2019 at 3:13 am)Belaqua Wrote:(May 16, 2019 at 10:14 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: @Belaqua
Why don't you go have a conversation with these people? I lurk in these forums and I'd be interested to read your interactions. They are not anti-Christian to the extent that they would dismiss your ideas out of hand. You may have some very good conversations there, and learn something along the way-- straight from the horse's mouth even.
Edit: you may even connect with them about the antinomian stuff.
Well, I gave it a try.
I see where EgoDeath gets his ideas now. This video:
http://www.the600club.com/topic35280-1.html
uses the same language and makes the same points.
No doubt there are some people in the group who go beyond what the video says. Let us hope so. It's a mishmash of barely-understood concepts half-heard from genuine systems. Just right for consumer culture.
I used to complain that in Japan various personae are just paper-thin style. In England, for example, a skinhead has a political and social background that goes with the appearance. If you see a kid in Shinjuki dressed as a skinhead, however, it's almost certain that he has never heard of any of the background; he got the look from a page in a catalog, and might as well be dressing like Mother Theresa or an arctic explorer -- and he would, if the image appealed to him. Now I see that America is pretty close to the same state of culture-as-veneer.
So far all I can see of LaVey-type Satanism is along these lines. A shallow philosophy entirely compatible with undergrads in state schools, with Halloween costumes added for group cohesion.
I remember that forum. Michael Aquino used too be on there a lot and maybe still is. He was part of the early days of the Church of Satan with LaVey and swears to this day LaVey believed in an actual Devil and made a pact with him.