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My apology
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RE: My apology
(October 12, 2011 at 8:19 am)reverendjeremiah Wrote: Syndicalism advocates the abolishment of wage, and therefore the abolishment of taxes.

There are still taxes, they just don't go by that name. Each person is still provided with and required to contribute their productivity towards services for the community, whether this tax is a portion of a currency paid or they are required to work towards building up some infrastructure/resources to be spent by some other collective they are still effectively being taxed.

Quote:Georgism still introducses the concept of profit into the system.

That's what's good about it, people are still endowed with the value they create, those who contribute goods/services that are more desirable (and thus more valuable) should rightly have more wealth. All other measures of value are arbitrary.

Quote:As long as profit exists, corruption will flourish greatly.

Oh, so I suppose their were no greedy communists in the history of the world? Greed is more primary than profits, power or force, not a function of it but something that can use it. To eliminate greed you can't just change a system, you'd have to change the very nature of greedy people.

Quote:Creativity will flourish regardless of what economic system exists at the moment, and people will still introduce their creations.

It will, but to varying degrees. The nations most known for innovation are those with market economies of one form or another. Different systems have different motivating factors, the incentive to succeed financially is a very powerful one, one that can be combined with other motivating factors. It stands to reason that the system with the most innovation will be the one with the most opportunity, freedom and motivating factors.

Quote:Elimination of wages will eliminate inequality

No it won't, it will simply ignore it.

Quote:societal leeches

How so? Are you going to force people to work or let them fend for themselves if they will not? If you're of the opinion that everyone should be given an equal share of all productivity there will always be people who are producing less than average and thus be leeching to some extent, as will there always be people who produce more and bare a heavier burden.

Quote:Creativity and the introduction of new products will still come about with or without a wage system, or regardless of free or planned economies. In fact, many scientists say that science could not have come into existence without leisure time. Syndicalism will increase leisure time for all, as opposed to the few rich who could afford it. It is well known that the cradle of science was brought about by mostly rich men who could afford the down time. Just imagine how much more we would be better off we would be if others during their time had the same capability?

Science in the modern era is rarely done from the tool-shed, unless these people have access to a laboratory in their spare time little will change. Besides, in the days of old people had little to occupy them when they were not working and the unknown wasn't massively out of reach of an untrained layman with a general sense of curiosity, these days most people would spend their leisure time in front of a television of computer, not pioneering technologies out of sheer curiosity. It would be the overwhelming minority that even attempted such a thing, let alone succeeded at it.
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My apology - by reverendjeremiah - October 11, 2011 at 12:39 pm
RE: My apology - by Cinjin - October 11, 2011 at 1:05 pm
RE: My apology - by thesummerqueen - October 11, 2011 at 1:07 pm
RE: My apology - by reverendjeremiah - October 11, 2011 at 1:29 pm
RE: My apology - by KichigaiNeko - October 12, 2011 at 9:34 am
RE: My apology - by Rayaan - October 11, 2011 at 1:18 pm
RE: My apology - by Tiberius - October 11, 2011 at 1:24 pm
RE: My apology - by reverendjeremiah - October 11, 2011 at 1:48 pm
RE: My apology - by Faith No More - October 11, 2011 at 1:49 pm
RE: My apology - by reverendjeremiah - October 11, 2011 at 5:29 pm
RE: My apology - by thesummerqueen - October 11, 2011 at 1:25 pm
RE: My apology - by Rayaan - October 11, 2011 at 1:29 pm
RE: My apology - by reverendjeremiah - October 11, 2011 at 1:50 pm
RE: My apology - by 5thHorseman - October 11, 2011 at 1:29 pm
RE: My apology - by Rayaan - October 11, 2011 at 1:45 pm
RE: My apology - by thesummerqueen - October 11, 2011 at 1:52 pm
RE: My apology - by reverendjeremiah - October 11, 2011 at 3:10 pm
RE: My apology - by thesummerqueen - October 11, 2011 at 3:11 pm
RE: My apology - by reverendjeremiah - October 11, 2011 at 3:15 pm
RE: My apology - by 5thHorseman - October 11, 2011 at 3:24 pm
RE: My apology - by reverendjeremiah - October 11, 2011 at 3:52 pm
RE: My apology - by Rev. Rye - October 11, 2011 at 4:21 pm
RE: My apology - by Rayaan - October 11, 2011 at 4:53 pm
RE: My apology - by thesummerqueen - October 11, 2011 at 4:54 pm
RE: My apology - by thesummerqueen - October 11, 2011 at 5:55 pm
RE: My apology - by Cinjin - October 11, 2011 at 7:07 pm
RE: My apology - by reverendjeremiah - October 11, 2011 at 7:25 pm
RE: My apology - by 5thHorseman - October 11, 2011 at 6:07 pm
RE: My apology - by reverendjeremiah - October 11, 2011 at 6:10 pm
RE: My apology - by thesummerqueen - October 11, 2011 at 6:09 pm
RE: My apology - by 5thHorseman - October 11, 2011 at 6:13 pm
RE: My apology - by reverendjeremiah - October 11, 2011 at 6:33 pm
RE: My apology - by theVOID - October 12, 2011 at 7:37 am
RE: My apology - by Tiberius - October 11, 2011 at 6:18 pm
RE: My apology - by 5thHorseman - October 11, 2011 at 6:27 pm
RE: My apology - by 5thHorseman - October 11, 2011 at 6:36 pm
RE: My apology - by thesummerqueen - October 11, 2011 at 7:08 pm
RE: My apology - by Cinjin - October 11, 2011 at 7:11 pm
RE: My apology - by Rayaan - October 11, 2011 at 7:36 pm
RE: My apology - by reverendjeremiah - October 11, 2011 at 8:43 pm
RE: My apology - by searchingforanswers - October 11, 2011 at 8:45 pm
RE: My apology - by Tiberius - October 12, 2011 at 3:03 am
RE: My apology - by fr0d0 - October 12, 2011 at 3:13 am
RE: My apology - by Tiberius - October 12, 2011 at 4:01 am
RE: My apology - by fr0d0 - October 12, 2011 at 7:58 am
RE: My apology - by reverendjeremiah - October 12, 2011 at 7:57 am
RE: My apology - by theVOID - October 12, 2011 at 8:08 am
RE: My apology - by reverendjeremiah - October 12, 2011 at 8:19 am
RE: My apology - by theVOID - October 12, 2011 at 8:51 am
RE: My apology - by thesummerqueen - October 12, 2011 at 9:36 am
RE: My apology - by KichigaiNeko - October 12, 2011 at 9:39 am
RE: My apology - by reverendjeremiah - October 12, 2011 at 10:54 am
RE: My apology - by Violet - October 12, 2011 at 5:29 pm
RE: My apology - by fr0d0 - October 12, 2011 at 6:10 pm



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