RE: When and where did atheism first start ?
June 25, 2019 at 8:40 am
(This post was last modified: June 25, 2019 at 8:57 am by Angrboda.)
(June 25, 2019 at 7:58 am)Belaqua Wrote:(June 25, 2019 at 7:33 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: He seems to be suggesting that a normative judgement about belief is unwarranted solely on the fact that it is something learned just as other learned things do not receive similar treatment.
But I'm not suggesting that.
Quote:There is a tendency to be fooled into thinking that because something is in some sense natural that it is therefore good, right, or appropriate and that further justification of making it a norm is unnecessary.
I would certainly never argue something like that.
Quote:I'm too lazy
Yes.
All the same, you still haven't made any actual point. Val was quite correct that if X were natural for humans then they wouldn't need to be taught it. And your examples of math, language, and how to behave in a group do not "have" to be taught, though specific skills, elaborations upon our native ability, or refinements of our natural talents may be taught. Regardless, I'm still not seeing what you were suggesting, and as far as I can see, you were both wrong as well as irrelevant. That you saw fit to be an ass and engage in insult given your errors and the relatively open and charitable way I was responding to you and your comments suggests that you do not possess good judgement in addition to being an ass.
(June 25, 2019 at 8:27 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: Bels complaint is simpler. Atheism doesn’t mean what he needed it to mean for some previous and similarly doomed argument, and remains irritated by the fact that some people have always been atheists, which...to him, is something akin to “the mind of a child”.
Which could be ably shortened to "Bel has a stick up his ass" without loss of accuracy or relevance.
Oh, and as a final comment upon Bel's asshattery, I was entirely correct in my comments, though I thank Bel for his somewhat unsuccessful attempt to clarify his point by attacking me and my suggestion.