Deconversion and some doubts

[tackattack]

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Firstly, it's not the same thing, finding wallet and not returning it is in fact a theft and is harmful to the owner. Keeping it is a bad thing. Having consensual sex (more and more do I regret briniging it up as an example) is not harmful to anyone, I would even tell that it is the opposite. 

What I am saying is that you telling me that I ought not do things that are harmful to others, is not much different than Catholics telling you, you ought not masterbate or have premarital sex.

Why ought I not do things that are beneficial or pleasing to me, just because it’s harmful to others? If it pleaseS me to do something that’s potentially harmful to you, why should I not do it, anymore so than you masterbate for the sake of pleasure?

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Not just physical consequences. There's the damage to your own empathy to consider. The more you victimize others the easier and more tempting it gets. You are the sum of the choices you make. It's very easy to get into the habit of thievery. Best not to start unless you want to be a thief, even if you know you won't get caught. Choices aren't only about the moment, they're about who you are and who you're going to be.

Empathy is a pretty finicky son of a bitch, it’s much easier to feel it for the homeless you rarely have to deal with, than when they’re stinking up your streets. More easier to feel towards those that look like us, and have things in common with, than with those not like us. You show white people a video of a black person getting a needle, they feel less empathy than if it were injected into black skin, and vice versa.

Stealing your wallet, far more digestible then stealing my sisters purse.

So the idea that stealing your wallet damages my biological empathy, is perhaps not as true as you hope it would be.

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Sorry I couldn't be bothered to get all the way caught up on the thread, but this caught me " saying is that you telling me that I ought not do things that are harmful to others"

One thing that we often forget is that what you ought to do should be good for your current self and others. Those "others" include your future selves. Is shooting cocaine awesome for me now. Sure, maybe but it will destroy me later, and might hurt those around me and if I'm caught...
Maybe that spin on the concept might help the conversation.

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But isn't Christianity a party pooper?
So you have to reject God to have fun. Sin is glorious. Good for the head and the heart. Concept of "sin" is merely an attempt to criminalize human nature, to infuse shame into perfectly benign aspects of the human experience. Turning instincts into a disease just so some priests can profit off a futile, fictional cure.

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It can be a party pooper. It teaches delayed gratification. You practice the same thing when you save up money for a motorcycle, or that new butt plug you've been wanting. A lot of Christian concepts do vilify instincts and biological human nature. Human nature without understanding, or direction is better than death, but not as beneficial as social constructs. I want to control the chaos that I can control, and understand what I can't. We all make far fewer decisions based on will than on instinct. I thought we all did this and it wasn't a bad thing? We obviously disagree as to the aims, means and direction of religions generally, but aside from the rare hedonist, I didn't think being less in control of your actions and decisions was anyone's goal.