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Declawing Cats
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RE: Declawing Cats
(July 29, 2019 at 10:58 am)Anomalocaris Wrote:
(July 29, 2019 at 10:49 am)Shell B Wrote: Is it, though? Certain animals have compassion and potentially a concept of right and wrong. It’s my belief that we think we are more important than we are. If we’re going to have morals, certainly inflicting pain and suffering on weaker creatures for anything short of survival should be prohibited.

It certainly seems to be.  Animals may have affinity and revulsions, but do the adopt and circulate rules of right and wrong?

Importance is value judgement without a standard. 

We’ve had morals during all the time when inflicting pain and suffering on weaker creatures were not prohibited.  So having morals were clearly not incompatible with inflicting pain and suffering on weaker creatures.   What you would like to do is to adjust morality until such is generally prohibited.   What, besides momentary impulse, would making this adjustment acceptable to enough people, and what would make this acceptability last?

There have always, in civilized society, been standards by which animals are treated. We’ve had pets for as long as we know. There have always been morals regarding animals. What I’d like to see is less survival of the cutest and less abuse of convenience.
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Declawing Cats - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - July 28, 2019 at 6:48 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by Chad32 - July 28, 2019 at 7:03 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - July 28, 2019 at 7:12 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by Chad32 - July 28, 2019 at 7:21 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by Catholic_Lady - August 4, 2019 at 11:37 am
RE: Declawing Cats - by Chad32 - August 4, 2019 at 11:44 am
RE: Declawing Cats - by Anomalocaris - August 4, 2019 at 12:37 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by arewethereyet - July 28, 2019 at 7:17 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - July 28, 2019 at 7:20 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by arewethereyet - July 28, 2019 at 7:23 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by Gawdzilla Sama - July 28, 2019 at 7:23 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - July 28, 2019 at 7:29 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by Gawdzilla Sama - July 28, 2019 at 8:45 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by arewethereyet - July 28, 2019 at 7:32 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by Anomalocaris - July 28, 2019 at 8:01 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by Shell B - July 28, 2019 at 8:20 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by Anomalocaris - July 28, 2019 at 8:25 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - July 29, 2019 at 6:57 am
RE: Declawing Cats - by Mermaid - July 28, 2019 at 8:01 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by Anomalocaris - July 28, 2019 at 8:03 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by arewethereyet - July 28, 2019 at 8:06 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by Anomalocaris - July 28, 2019 at 8:11 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by Shell B - July 28, 2019 at 8:22 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by Shell B - July 28, 2019 at 8:23 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by Shell B - July 28, 2019 at 8:46 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by EgoDeath - July 28, 2019 at 9:05 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by Alan V - July 28, 2019 at 9:37 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by EgoDeath - July 28, 2019 at 9:59 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by arewethereyet - July 28, 2019 at 10:51 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by EgoDeath - July 28, 2019 at 11:02 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by Shell B - July 28, 2019 at 11:05 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by EgoDeath - July 28, 2019 at 11:07 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by Shell B - July 28, 2019 at 11:10 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by EgoDeath - July 28, 2019 at 11:22 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by Alan V - July 29, 2019 at 6:12 am
RE: Declawing Cats - by Shell B - July 29, 2019 at 10:10 am
RE: Declawing Cats - by brewer - July 28, 2019 at 10:18 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by Shell B - July 28, 2019 at 11:07 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by Anomalocaris - July 28, 2019 at 11:13 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by Shell B - July 29, 2019 at 12:46 am
RE: Declawing Cats - by Anomalocaris - July 29, 2019 at 2:35 am
RE: Declawing Cats - by Shell B - July 29, 2019 at 10:09 am
RE: Declawing Cats - by Anomalocaris - July 29, 2019 at 10:19 am
RE: Declawing Cats - by Shell B - July 29, 2019 at 10:25 am
RE: Declawing Cats - by Anomalocaris - July 29, 2019 at 10:36 am
RE: Declawing Cats - by Shell B - July 29, 2019 at 10:49 am
RE: Declawing Cats - by Anomalocaris - July 29, 2019 at 10:58 am
RE: Declawing Cats - by Shell B - July 29, 2019 at 11:12 am
RE: Declawing Cats - by Anomalocaris - July 29, 2019 at 11:21 am
RE: Declawing Cats - by Shell B - July 29, 2019 at 11:34 am
RE: Declawing Cats - by Anomalocaris - July 29, 2019 at 12:37 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by Shell B - July 29, 2019 at 1:31 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by Anomalocaris - July 29, 2019 at 1:34 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by Shell B - July 29, 2019 at 1:41 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by Anomalocaris - July 29, 2019 at 1:49 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by brewer - July 29, 2019 at 6:05 am
RE: Declawing Cats - by arewethereyet - July 28, 2019 at 11:13 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by Shell B - July 29, 2019 at 12:52 am
RE: Declawing Cats - by EgoDeath - July 29, 2019 at 12:59 am
RE: Declawing Cats - by Shell B - July 29, 2019 at 1:24 am
RE: Declawing Cats - by EgoDeath - July 29, 2019 at 1:42 am
RE: Declawing Cats - by Shell B - July 29, 2019 at 10:16 am
RE: Declawing Cats - by EgoDeath - July 29, 2019 at 4:56 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by Little lunch - July 29, 2019 at 2:31 am
RE: Declawing Cats - by zebo-the-fat - July 29, 2019 at 8:05 am
RE: Declawing Cats - by Gawdzilla Sama - July 29, 2019 at 9:07 am
RE: Declawing Cats - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - July 29, 2019 at 9:17 am
RE: Declawing Cats - by Anomalocaris - July 29, 2019 at 9:33 am
RE: Declawing Cats - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - July 29, 2019 at 2:35 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by Gawdzilla Sama - July 29, 2019 at 9:48 am
RE: Declawing Cats - by Shell B - July 29, 2019 at 10:11 am
RE: Declawing Cats - by LastPoet - July 29, 2019 at 8:05 am
RE: Declawing Cats - by Shell B - July 29, 2019 at 10:08 am
RE: Declawing Cats - by Gawdzilla Sama - July 29, 2019 at 10:20 am
RE: Declawing Cats - by Shell B - July 29, 2019 at 10:23 am
RE: Declawing Cats - by Gawdzilla Sama - July 29, 2019 at 10:36 am
RE: Declawing Cats - by Shell B - July 29, 2019 at 10:45 am
RE: Declawing Cats - by Gawdzilla Sama - July 29, 2019 at 10:59 am
RE: Declawing Cats - by The Grand Nudger - July 29, 2019 at 10:49 am
RE: Declawing Cats - by Shell B - July 29, 2019 at 10:56 am
RE: Declawing Cats - by The Grand Nudger - July 29, 2019 at 11:23 am
RE: Declawing Cats - by Gawdzilla Sama - July 29, 2019 at 11:17 am
RE: Declawing Cats - by Shell B - July 29, 2019 at 11:30 am
RE: Declawing Cats - by The Grand Nudger - July 29, 2019 at 11:48 am
RE: Declawing Cats - by Alan V - July 29, 2019 at 12:38 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by WinterHold - July 29, 2019 at 1:09 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by Anomalocaris - July 29, 2019 at 1:16 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by Shell B - July 29, 2019 at 1:34 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by Anomalocaris - July 29, 2019 at 1:36 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by Shell B - July 29, 2019 at 1:43 pm
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RE: Declawing Cats - by WinterHold - July 29, 2019 at 2:07 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by The Valkyrie - July 29, 2019 at 1:28 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by Shell B - July 29, 2019 at 1:35 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by The Grand Nudger - July 29, 2019 at 1:47 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by The Grand Nudger - July 29, 2019 at 2:42 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - July 29, 2019 at 2:46 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by Gawdzilla Sama - July 29, 2019 at 2:47 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by The Grand Nudger - July 29, 2019 at 2:52 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by The Valkyrie - July 29, 2019 at 9:00 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by LastPoet - July 29, 2019 at 2:55 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by Shell B - July 29, 2019 at 8:53 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by EgoDeath - July 29, 2019 at 8:56 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by Shell B - July 29, 2019 at 9:48 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by EgoDeath - July 30, 2019 at 5:51 pm
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RE: Declawing Cats - by Shell B - July 30, 2019 at 12:20 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by onlinebiker - July 30, 2019 at 12:23 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by Shell B - July 30, 2019 at 12:44 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by Gawdzilla Sama - July 30, 2019 at 12:45 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by arewethereyet - July 30, 2019 at 1:39 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by Shell B - July 30, 2019 at 1:51 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by Shell B - July 30, 2019 at 12:57 pm
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RE: Declawing Cats - by Shell B - July 30, 2019 at 1:39 pm
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RE: Declawing Cats - by Shell B - July 30, 2019 at 2:48 pm
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RE: Declawing Cats - by Anomalocaris - July 30, 2019 at 3:17 pm
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RE: Declawing Cats - by Anomalocaris - July 30, 2019 at 11:06 pm
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RE: Declawing Cats - by Anomalocaris - July 31, 2019 at 12:32 am
RE: Declawing Cats - by The Valkyrie - July 31, 2019 at 1:24 pm
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RE: Declawing Cats - by Shell B - July 31, 2019 at 3:09 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by Shell B - July 30, 2019 at 11:23 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by Anomalocaris - July 30, 2019 at 11:28 pm
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RE: Declawing Cats - by Anomalocaris - July 31, 2019 at 12:27 am
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RE: Declawing Cats - by The Grand Nudger - July 31, 2019 at 2:13 am
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RE: Declawing Cats - by Shell B - July 31, 2019 at 10:20 am
RE: Declawing Cats - by Anomalocaris - July 31, 2019 at 10:25 am
RE: Declawing Cats - by Shell B - July 31, 2019 at 11:08 am
RE: Declawing Cats - by The Grand Nudger - July 31, 2019 at 10:24 am
RE: Declawing Cats - by Shell B - July 31, 2019 at 11:05 am
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RE: Declawing Cats - by The Grand Nudger - July 31, 2019 at 11:11 am
RE: Declawing Cats - by Shell B - July 31, 2019 at 11:26 am
RE: Declawing Cats - by Anomalocaris - July 31, 2019 at 12:18 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by Shell B - July 31, 2019 at 12:42 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by The Grand Nudger - July 31, 2019 at 11:29 am
RE: Declawing Cats - by Shell B - July 31, 2019 at 11:50 am
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RE: Declawing Cats - by Shell B - July 31, 2019 at 12:43 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by Gawdzilla Sama - July 31, 2019 at 7:52 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by The Grand Nudger - July 31, 2019 at 1:27 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by Brian37 - July 31, 2019 at 1:48 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by arewethereyet - July 31, 2019 at 2:02 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by The Valkyrie - July 31, 2019 at 1:55 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by The Grand Nudger - July 31, 2019 at 2:04 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by Brian37 - July 31, 2019 at 2:06 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by arewethereyet - July 31, 2019 at 2:11 pm
RE: Declawing Cats - by Brian37 - July 31, 2019 at 2:41 pm
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RE: Declawing Cats - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - July 31, 2019 at 2:47 pm
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RE: Declawing Cats - by Brian37 - July 31, 2019 at 2:11 pm
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