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Are Myths Valuable?
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RE: Are Myths Valuable?
(July 30, 2019 at 8:55 am)DLJ Wrote: It's the operational processes that are doing the monitoring, attending, observing and adjusting.  It's the management processes that are doing the selecting and strategy deployment.  It's the governance processes that are evaluating, dashboarding (is that a word?) and directing towards new strategies.

What do you mean by "mechanical cues"?

In the discussed example, an alarm clock is a mechanical cue. Remembering that it's Sunday with nothing to cue one externally is not.

(July 30, 2019 at 8:55 am)DLJ Wrote:
(July 30, 2019 at 5:49 am)Alan V Wrote: Reductionists point out simple examples to support their premise, but it is typically in much more complex examples where the obverse can be observed.

I'm not seeing the problem.

The problem is that emergent properties like consciousness require complexity, so of course they "disappear" when simple examples are all that are considered. If you take a bird apart and it no longer flies, you haven't proven that birds can't fly.

But you seem to have a much more elaborate system to break down all of the processes than any typical reductionist. However, my experiences with reductionists are that they want to exclude the potential causal efficacy of consciousness from their equations, apparently because they think the topic is too "wooy" to be addressed by materialists. I think that approach is irresponsible for any number of reasons.
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Are Myths Valuable? - by vulcanlogician - July 26, 2019 at 10:16 pm
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by The Grand Nudger - July 26, 2019 at 10:48 pm
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by Belacqua - July 26, 2019 at 11:35 pm
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by Brian37 - July 26, 2019 at 11:48 pm
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by ignoramus - July 27, 2019 at 3:06 am
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by Belacqua - July 27, 2019 at 3:12 am
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by brewer - July 27, 2019 at 7:48 am
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by Brian37 - July 27, 2019 at 6:20 pm
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - July 27, 2019 at 6:39 pm
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by Anomalocaris - July 27, 2019 at 7:52 pm
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by Acrobat - July 27, 2019 at 6:51 am
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by Alan V - July 27, 2019 at 7:27 am
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by Acrobat - July 27, 2019 at 7:44 am
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by Alan V - July 27, 2019 at 8:06 am
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - July 27, 2019 at 8:08 am
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by Alan V - July 27, 2019 at 8:13 am
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by Acrobat - July 27, 2019 at 11:19 am
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by Alan V - July 27, 2019 at 1:53 pm
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by Acrobat - July 27, 2019 at 10:30 pm
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by Alan V - July 27, 2019 at 10:44 pm
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by DLJ - July 27, 2019 at 11:03 pm
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by Alan V - July 28, 2019 at 6:09 am
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by Belacqua - July 28, 2019 at 6:37 am
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by DLJ - July 28, 2019 at 8:23 am
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by Alan V - July 28, 2019 at 1:14 pm
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by Belacqua - July 28, 2019 at 7:22 pm
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by vulcanlogician - July 29, 2019 at 8:58 pm
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by Alan V - July 29, 2019 at 10:10 pm
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by vulcanlogician - July 29, 2019 at 11:03 pm
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by Alan V - July 30, 2019 at 5:49 am
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by DLJ - July 30, 2019 at 8:55 am
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by Alan V - July 30, 2019 at 11:24 am
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by DLJ - July 30, 2019 at 12:54 pm
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by Alan V - July 31, 2019 at 6:58 am
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by DLJ - July 31, 2019 at 7:07 am
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by Alan V - July 31, 2019 at 9:06 am
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by DLJ - July 30, 2019 at 4:22 am
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by DLJ - July 29, 2019 at 3:20 am
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by Alan V - July 29, 2019 at 6:34 am
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by DLJ - July 29, 2019 at 9:59 am
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by Anomalocaris - July 29, 2019 at 10:11 am
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by DLJ - July 29, 2019 at 10:30 am
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by Alan V - July 29, 2019 at 12:56 pm
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by DLJ - July 29, 2019 at 6:31 pm
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by Anomalocaris - July 27, 2019 at 12:42 pm
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by Belacqua - July 27, 2019 at 6:13 pm
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by Belacqua - July 27, 2019 at 7:39 am
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by Alan V - July 27, 2019 at 7:46 am
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by Acrobat - July 27, 2019 at 8:32 am
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by Alan V - July 27, 2019 at 8:38 am
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - July 27, 2019 at 7:55 am
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by DLJ - July 27, 2019 at 9:55 am
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by no one - July 27, 2019 at 3:29 pm
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by Belacqua - July 27, 2019 at 8:17 pm
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by Macoleco - July 27, 2019 at 9:41 pm
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by Nay_Sayer - July 28, 2019 at 2:31 am
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by polymath257 - July 28, 2019 at 7:57 pm
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by The Grand Nudger - July 29, 2019 at 10:18 am
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by Sal - July 29, 2019 at 9:31 pm
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by The Valkyrie - July 29, 2019 at 11:29 pm
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by Anomalocaris - July 30, 2019 at 12:59 am
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - July 30, 2019 at 7:55 am
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by The Grand Nudger - July 31, 2019 at 9:33 am
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by EgoDeath - August 3, 2019 at 1:22 pm
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by Anomalocaris - August 3, 2019 at 1:30 pm
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by EgoDeath - August 3, 2019 at 1:33 pm
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by Anomalocaris - August 3, 2019 at 1:39 pm
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by EgoDeath - August 3, 2019 at 1:42 pm
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by Anomalocaris - August 3, 2019 at 1:46 pm
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by EgoDeath - August 3, 2019 at 1:53 pm
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by Anomalocaris - August 3, 2019 at 1:57 pm
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by Alan V - August 3, 2019 at 2:27 pm
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by EgoDeath - August 3, 2019 at 2:28 pm
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by EgoDeath - August 3, 2019 at 2:01 pm
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by Alan V - August 3, 2019 at 2:28 pm
RE: Are Myths Valuable? - by EgoDeath - August 3, 2019 at 2:30 pm

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