RE: How about this..
August 1, 2019 at 9:53 am
(This post was last modified: August 1, 2019 at 10:05 am by Brian37.)
(August 1, 2019 at 9:38 am)Mister Agenda Wrote:(July 31, 2019 at 4:37 pm)Drich Wrote: Again big picture, this is my education. I am learning how to deal and work with people who hate you and think you are nothing. I am seeking how to relate compromise and identify need and help fill that need in people. Big picture I've done this with 15is years working one on one in the inner city of orlando, I did this again in a collage age singles ministry comprised of students from state schools tech schools and a radio broad cast school. helping them solve the problems that arose with higher education and faith. in my specific industry, and in drug and substance addicted family members. Show me a degree where any of what you identified matters to any of those people. Stood in front of you you would never know which there I used when speaking you would not know I did not know how to spell or had trouble with reading.. unless I get super tired and then the stuttering and word jumble takes over. But otherwise know I can teach a class of technicians for 2 weeks from source material written in italian without speaking the language or even heard it spoken fluently before. all i had was one broken english italian engineer and his books. I was literally one day a head of the class the whole time on a product new to the world. not one person thought I has any deficiency or problem. we rented out a vo tech school for 2 weeks to teach this class and afterwards I was offered a job. Everyone took a basic knowledge test and not one passed 75 people maybe (we had way more attendees but 75 where the people who mattered) and at the end all 75 legitly got their master certification. no preparation nothing. I simply saw the italian engineer struggling and helped him in english then started answering questions like i do here... but respected for it. after lunch I took over that first day.
Again I am not seeking to meet some artificial goal or marker of intelligence. I am training right now i am learning right now nothing is wasted nothing is arbitrary. I am better than when I began and i will be better by the end of the year..
And again I know the popular idea is I am dumb and ineffective but at the same time I have 47 reps.. I know many of you have way more... but how many do you have on a christian site? how much harder is it to be respected enough to have a conversation with someone who hates you or thinks you are not worthy to speak with let alone openly acknowledge your work and even leave a corresponding comment. plus 172 pages of kudoes.. I know most of you have 10xs that.. but again how many kudoes would you have if everything you stood for wa hated by everyone else where you are at? every time you opened your mouth in religion or politics it was considered an affront to everything some one else believes???
Then I have 16 pages of PMs and not all are admin warnings.. a lot a great deal are members contacting me personally asking things they dare not ask infront of the crowd.. and in emails I have several regular correspondence one of which after 6 years of back and forth went from hating God to finding a church gtting baptized and the whole 9 yards. Not to mention the core members here do have some respect for me on some level as there was a 60+ page petition to have me 'nuked.' (eliminated just because) Despite the majority wanting me gone, those who matter here thankfully kept me on. Tell me which web site you have 60 pages of complaints on that you are still a member of.
Remember I am happy and found my version of success..
So what does a degree buy, that I do not already have? which degree ensures any of what I listed above happens? which degree see my wife through her heroin addiction, which degree has me succeed in a job that maybe 25 other people in the united states can do? which degree helps me help collage kids not only push back their teachers and maintain their faith but also allows many of them to date and get married? or allows me to work in the worst neighborhood in our city without ever being hurt.. which one allows me to do all of that and again has me speak to people daily who hate and do not respect anything i say or do yet generates hope for those in need? which one ensures the direction I am going?
To me all i see.. is a degree placates those who to not have the ability to learn and succeed on their own. a degree is little more than affirmation that you can be taught to think like the group to be forced to accept and assimilate knowledge if it is packaged the right way. and to scoff at anyone who sources info any other way. The current system of education is primitive at best. it is designed to inform in an age where access to source material was at best limited. so it 'teaches.' which is obsolete. why? because information is no longer a secret commodity that needed a degree to access. what we need now is to know how and what to access and how to discern or rank material.. inessence we do not need to be taught and learn we need to know how to think for ourselves and how to access our ability to learn. We are in the dark ages when it comes to education and higher learning because we are not teaching or supporting thinkers in fact we shunn and shoot people down when they reach too high. (look at how you all responded to elon musk and his neural matrix uplink idea.) our current system is designed to foster group think and control. look at what was said when trump won the election..
The uneducated put him in office... yes I know thisplays well with those who have been taught to think they are better but truy look at this narrative. The news, a group think education source all but told you whom to vote for and why. they used all of the good key words for clinton and all of the bad key words for trump they even rigged all of the polls to show she would win in a landslide... yet trump won... why? because to them not enough people where trained to blindly accept the news/educated source of info.
This is what you are selling because why? oh, yeah it is also against God and inorder for me to be 'properly educated' I can not have my own ideas about God. I have to go with what educated people say which does not allow for religion... why? because religion is control... but education is not?
no thanks..
I am here because that is where God needs me to be.. I do have a clear vision for the future which once this is complete or i feel like it can take a back brner I will move on to the next thing which will mean a larger audience.
If I can succeed here in my weakness Imagine the damage i will do when God say it is time to shift to my strengths...
I appreciate the work you've done for the disadvantaged, Drich, but none of that makes a geothermal power plant a perpetual motion machine, just one that has the potential to run for a very long time. An actual perpetual motion machine could hypothetically run forever without any ongoing energy input. You don't need a degree in physics to understand that, just a willingness to admit you weren't using the right term to describe what you were talking about.
Once you converse with a wide sample of your fellow humans worldwide of all religions, the same pattern emerges.
"I am good because"
"My religion says"
"Look what we did"
But in reality, our species has never reached a perfect utopia. In reality our species has always had conflict, even between the sub sects of the same umbrella religions, not just against other religions. In reality there is not one nation that does not have hospitals or prisons.
That says to me, our species morality, our behaviors are not coming from old mythology, or super natural cognitions. I will say it again. I think most humans are good. I simply disagree that humans need any religion. I disagree that morality is being handed to our species from a divine place or a God or Gods.
Despite what humans get sold, you can find acts of kindness worldwide. Our species ability to be cruel or kind existed long before any written language or nation. Our ability to be cruel to our fellow humans existed after the first written languages and nations, and still exists worldwide today.
Religion is not a cure. While it is not something one can eradicate from the planet, it is still a horrible way to conduct political diplomacy, even within the competing sects of the same nation, much less other religions.