How about this..

[downbeatplumb]

I still don't know what you meant to say.
You don't put ideas across with any clarity.

Sorry no... means I'm sorry you are wrong about writing incoherently. I can say this because 20 other people read the same posts and have no isse responding topically when they want to.

One of you made the error means one of you made the mistake in assuming that i did not know fuel was the reason my machine was not PMM

And everyone without reading assumed the same thing and you just blindly jumped on. means what it says they assumed that the first person who made the mistake was correct because in your minds I am always wrong. This is what I identify is group think. one of you makes a charge or assumes wrong and the rest follow without thought or evidence.

Desse made the mistake assuming I did not know what closed loop meant in relation to power generation. He probably did a simple generic google search and a general electrical definition.. as he not being a legit engineer simply did not know any better. EI closed loop is a generic term and it means several different things in several different fields.. So rather than you verifying for yourself, you assumed he was right and jumped on his band wagon.. So when I made him look the fool by providing a quote directly referencing the term closed loop in a nuclear power generation article, you where shown to also be a non thinking group thinker.

get it now?

So you are saying that you never said you had a perpetual motion machine. 

I am sure I saw you say you had invented one.

So to clarify the machine you spoke of is in no way and could never be referred to as a perpetual motion machine by anyone with any knowledge.

Then why did you defend the idea?

So in a sense old sport... there is your perpetual motion machine. Just make it a closed loop system. Pump in cold water from a seal reservoir, down 7.5 miles have the water flash to steam allow the vapor to come back up as high pressure gas, run it through a turbine ,then a condenser then back to the radiator, and repeat.