(August 10, 2019 at 12:14 pm)Brian37 Wrote:This situation has absolutely nothing to do with Oswald and Harvey. I know that you have to make comparisons with everything but it's so much fluff.(August 10, 2019 at 10:32 am)arewethereyet Wrote: I guess they weren't able to put a horse head onto his cot.
After the first 'attempt' the writing was on the wall as to how this guy was going to meet his end.
In what context?
I can see a "Jack Ruby" type prisoner or guard taking it upon themselves to "assist" or "allow" because they don't like child molesters. But it is highly unlikely that Trump or Bill Clinton whom both had contact with him, would need to have him murdered. Even if he was not rich and famous, child molesters are hated in prison.
The most likely scenario is that he really did kill himself. Somebody like that would not be used to being confined, not to mention, even if he made it to trial, convicted, he'd be a target, regardless of his wealth and fame.
Oswald acted alone, and Bush Jr had nothing to do with 9/11 and there is no such thing as Big Foot.
Just like the right wing nut who shot up the pizza joint because he thought Hillary was running a child molesting ring is bullshit.
I am not accusing you in this thread of a conspiracy. But even prior to posting just now, I am already seeing both democrats and republicans suggesting he was murdered to prevent squealing on Trump, AND Bill Clinton.
Even Rudy Giuliani today Tweeted his concern as to why Epstein died. The Republican conspiracy nuts will read that as Bill Clinton had him murdered. And I am seeing liberals implying already, NOT HERE, but on Twitter, implying Trump may have had him killed.
If someone isn't rich or famous they are still a target. Epstein would never get a pardon, so there would be no incentive for either Trump or Clinton to have him murdered. If he committed suicide, it would be for the same reason any child molester would. They don't want to be abused or raped or murdered by other prisoners.
I do agree with the "allowed" part at best. Looking the other way. But at best, if he was murdered, it be a prisoner our guard that were not directly contacted by powerful people. If it were murder, it would be more like a Jack Ruby taking that murder upon themselves because they don't like the perp. Just like Jack Ruby wasn't paid off to murder Oswald, but merely hated him for killing JFK.
Allowed - yes. He was under suicide watch in a cell.
Assisted - very possibly, even if he was assisted by being allowed.
This is the time when people are going to test out theories and suspicions while waiting on what is hopefully a good investigation.
If he was able to tie a noose around his neck and jump down from something high enough to snap his neck, he could have been dead in seconds. If the death is determined to be strangulation by hanging that's a whole other thing. It takes a while to die from that. Certainly enough time should have elapsed to fall within the time he was to have been monitored.
Since he had already attempted death by hanging, he should not have been left with anything that could have been used as a noose or garrote.
Try to stay on track and leave the Kennedy assassination out of this.