Hong Kong.........

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Trump has no authority to even attempt to mediate this.  Hong Kong and China are the same country.  What you're suggesting is equal to Germany attempting to mediate a disagreement between England and Wales.

Boru

No, way to miss the point again.

I am saying that Trump's diplomacy sucks, nothing more.

I am not looking for a utopia, and again, I don't want a war with China.

I am saying that the fucker has screwed things up and made things worse.

But it is nonsense to say that ANY President does not have authority. It isn't about dictating, but leading. JFK wasn't dictating to Russia in the Cuban missile crisis. Reagan wasn't dictating to Gorbachev when he said "Tare down that wall." 

They were leading. 

China promised to let Hong Kong do it's own thing when Britain handed them back over. Trump fucked everything up with his bullshit trade war. And during his run and while in office has been constantly sucking up to dictators, and that sends a very bad message to these closed oppressive states, that what they do is ok, and it is not ok.

I am not expecting a American style Revolutionary war by Hong Kong. But I also do not want Trump to fuck up the status quo America and Britain set up for decades.

It is the same fucking tone deaf insensitivity and his love of authoritarians that puts South Korea and Japan at risk with the way he sucks up to Un.

1.  No, I take your point, I'm just saying you're wrong.

2.  I agree that Trump's diplomacy sucks.  I'll go further and say that he has no diplomatic skills whatsoever.

3.  I never said you wanted a war with China.

4.  Trump's policies have had no impact - good, bad or indifferent - on the current situation in Hong Kong.

5.  I said Trump has no authority to mediate this dispute.  It's an internal matter within China.  He can attempt to 'lead' all he wants.  He can get on his bully pulpit and tweet what he thinks he knows about Hong Kong.  He has that authority, no question about it.  Be he has no more authority to mediate the dispute than President Xi has the authority to mediate a border spat between North and South Dakota.

6. You're perfectly correct that Trump sucks up to dictators, no argument.  But his trade policies have in no way exacerbated the situation in Hong Kong.  For the teenth time, it has nothing to do with trade.

7.  How do you expect that Trump is going to fuck up this status quo?

8.  North Korea has nothing to do with this.

Please read up on the history of Hong Kong, and try to understand what 'mediate' means.

Boru