(August 14, 2019 at 12:51 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:(August 14, 2019 at 11:11 am)Brian37 Wrote: Trump is not a politician in Hong Kong or a politician in China, not the point.
But as a western leader, he sucks at leading. You agree with that, and that is all I am saying.
It is still his job to use diplomacy to not only avoid war, but to support our interests, and Hong Kong being used to western stile government, we should not abandon the protesters, even if we cant control their politics. Real leadership is what JFK did, and what Reagan did. That is all I am saying.
Just like we are not helping Japan or South Korea by having a POTUS who kisses Un's ass. We have no authority over South Korea or Japan, but we do have an influence.
Let me put it bluntly. It is a tug of war between the free west and closed states. The idea is to influence long term to get them to be more open. You don't kiss dictators asses if your goal is to get them to be more open. You don't have to start wars or dictate to them, but you shouldn't embolden them either.
For the four thousand six hundred seventy ninth time. Kim is his family name. Jung Un is his given name. Calling Kim Jung Un Un is like calling Donald Trump Ald.
You manifest contempt for known what you are talking about in anything more the vaguest sense makes your repetitive and interminable monologues regarding how this or that world event is yet another confirmation of your overarching world view all the more complete wastes of breath.
Yes no shit! I have a last name too, but people call me Brian. Un is his first name. I didn't miss that.
Why do you give a shit if I call him by his first name or his last name? You corrected me a long time ago. I got it. But if I use his first name "Un" instead of his family name "Kim" that still does not make him any less of a fuckface asshole dictator.
"Kim" or "Un"
Just like "Don" and "Trump" a dick is a dick.
