(August 14, 2019 at 12:11 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:(August 14, 2019 at 11:11 am)Brian37 Wrote: Trump is not a politician in Hong Kong or a politician in China, not the point.
But as a western leader, he sucks at leading. You agree with that, and that is all I am saying.
It is still his job to use diplomacy to not only avoid war, but to support our interests, and Hong Kong being used to western stile government, we should not abandon the protesters, even if we cant control their politics. Real leadership is what JFK did, and what Reagan did. That is all I am saying.
Just like we are not helping Japan or South Korea by having a POTUS who kisses Un's ass. We have no authority over South Korea or Japan, but we do have an influence.
Let me put it bluntly. It is a tug of war between the free west and closed states. The idea is to influence long term to get them to be more open. You don't kiss dictators asses if your goal is to get them to be more open. You don't have to start wars or dictate to them, but you shouldn't embolden them either.
Tell me what you think the Hong Kong protests are about and what you think Trump should do regarding them.
Boru
The protests are about the mainland interfering with Hong Kong's laws, and they are protesting those arrested being transferred to the mainland for prosecution.
Trump isn't going to do shit, or at least anything that would be effective. He made things worse.
But what I would want from a sane president, in his place, would be to mitigate any any erosion of rights for Hong Kong's population.