(August 22, 2019 at 7:15 pm)Belaqua Wrote:(August 22, 2019 at 6:46 pm)Grandizer Wrote: Not fringe or nonconventional Christian views, sure. But if mainstream Catholics, Orthodox, Protestants in general believe this and it's on the basis of what the scriptures say, then quote ends up being reasonable not over the top. A statement does not have to be absolutely unconditionally true in all respects in order to be generally true.
OK, we'd have to work out what those people say.
According to them, is Christianity a religion of love or a religion of misanthropy?
If they say Christianity is a religion of love, and you feel they are wrong and Christianity is in fact a religion of misanthropy, what facts are you using to demonstrate that what mainstream Catholics, Orthodox, Protestants in general believe on the basis of what the scriptures say is mistaken?
That wasn't the argument. Christians are going to look at it with rosy lens even when they talk about the taintedness of human nature. Those not invested in the faith are going to see this for what it is.
The argument, to remind you, was whether what Anom said was over the top. Based on what the doctrines of mainstream Christianity, no.
He may have been rude in his response, but his rudeness doesn't preclude the reasonability of what he said.