(August 31, 2019 at 2:47 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote:I don't think I've called them hypocrites but thanks for putting words in my mouth. I'm not talking "rational to them" but rational to an outside observer/third person perspective. My perspective would be that they are avoiding a rational look at the beliefs as a way to avoid cognitive dissonance in favor of emotional reasons/security.(August 31, 2019 at 2:40 pm)wyzas Wrote:(August 31, 2019 at 12:38 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: I don't doubt that they are sincere, but we are not discussing sincere. A lot of people are sincere about alien visitation or the healing power of crystals.
I doubt that they have ever taken a serious rational look at the religious beliefs and simply accepted. Most don't want to take that rational look as that would cause cognitive dissonance.
Sincerity matters when you described them as having a hypocritical stance that is externally derived but not internally applied: I am "because I'm told I am." If, to the contrary, their beliefs are sincerely their own, it is because the belief is rational to them.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.