(August 31, 2019 at 9:49 pm)Grandizer Wrote: The DSM IV was clearer on this:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK51...e/ch3.t11/
That's interesting.
DSM 4: "The person recognizes that the fear is excessive or unreasonable."
DSM 5: "The fear or anxiety is out of proportion to the actual danger posed..."
This point at least seems to reflect the conversation we've been having. Its a shift from first-person to a third-person criteria. Perhaps having the person recognize that the fear is unreasonable is not a good criteria because the fear may appear reasonable to the person (e.g. fear of flying, fear of death, etc.).