(September 4, 2019 at 8:27 am)Acrobat Wrote:(September 4, 2019 at 8:17 am)Deesse23 Wrote: Great, so Genesis, was (most) definitely not meant literal, it was more of a "story", an allegory, something else the authors (we dont know either) wanted to convey. We have no clue (yet) what the story was intended to mean, although theologians and believers argue for over 2ky about it.
Suggestion: You folks keep trying to figure this out. In the meantme i keep my belief (in what we dont know jack shit of) suspended. If you find something in the next approx 30y, give me a call, so i may be able to repent on my death bed just in time.
Here's my suggestion leave the question of whether it's literal or not to the side. Just like when you heard the story of the three little pigs, we could leave the question aside.
Then ask yourself what is the meaning of a story, about what is the meaning of the story, what is the other trying to convey?
It's a story about men acquiring knowledge of good and evil, and the impact of such knowledge. How it relates to concepts like shame, guilt, etc...
The meaning here is not dependent on the the account being historical.
I never was or am interested in reading the boring bible story book. I am not interested in reading many other books as well (like the three little pigs), because my day has only 24hrs. Thats why i am not interested in the bibles stories and what the authors may or may not want to convey.
Its people like you who are constantly asserting that some "knowledge" of "truth" results from reading and correctly understanding it. Its people like you who want to codify your beliefs based on this and interfere with other peoples´ lifes and human rights. Its people like you who are constantly asserting there is a big brother-like guy looking down on us, judging us, even after we die. All based on your assertion that you have understood something correct which was, according to Belaqua, certainly not meant to be interpreted in a literal way.
I am certainly not asking myself anything about bible stories. I will certainly not make your homework and figure out what the unknown author(s) of the bible wanted to convey.
If you want to spark any interest of mine, start demonstrating that your interpretations are most likely correct, any of them, not just assert it (see above). If you want to spark any interest on my side, start demonstrating that the big guy behind all of this really does exist....in more than some non literal way.
Cetero censeo religionem delendam esse