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The elephant conumdrum
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RE: The elephant conumdrum
(September 9, 2019 at 12:28 am)Grandizer Wrote:
(September 8, 2019 at 9:59 pm)Rahn127 Wrote: In a fictional story, fictional characters can answer questions, but don't tell anybody that's it's really me answering the questions. Shhhhhhhh !!!

And no, they will not weigh the same.

I made up this story to show that in order for god to be correct, he will have to intentionally give you false information.
If you rely on the information he tells you as being true, then he and you will always be wrong.

Why would he have to give you false information? I'm not seeing it.

If god says the elephant will weigh more and the person talking to god uses that information and says I will pick that the elephant will weigh more when the team arrives to weigh them both, then I will call in a team that will arrive in 30 minutes and that will mean that the truck will weigh more. Both god and the person will be wrong.

If god intentionally lies to the person saying truck will weigh more and the person believes god is being truthful, then the person will say - I'll pick the truck.

I will then call in a team that is an hour away and when they arrive, the elephant will weigh more.

No matter what the person chooses, they will always be wrong because no matter which one they pick, I will arrange when the team arrives to weigh them both.

God will only be right if he intentionally lies to the person asking the question.

God knows that the elephant will weigh more.
He tells you that the truck will weigh more. (a lie)
You say that the truck will weigh more.

I call in a team that is an hour away and by the time they get here, the elephant will weigh more and you will be wrong.

So it leaves you in a situation in which you can't trust that God will be truthful if he is also all knowing.

And if he can be shown to not be all knowing (by giving the wrong answer) then he isn't an all knowing god.
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The elephant conumdrum - by Rahn127 - September 8, 2019 at 9:38 pm
RE: The elephant conumdrum - by brewer - September 8, 2019 at 9:47 pm
RE: The elephant conumdrum - by Athene - September 8, 2019 at 9:50 pm
RE: The elephant conumdrum - by The Valkyrie - September 8, 2019 at 9:53 pm
RE: The elephant conumdrum - by Rahn127 - September 8, 2019 at 9:59 pm
RE: The elephant conumdrum - by Grandizer - September 9, 2019 at 12:28 am
RE: The elephant conumdrum - by Rahn127 - September 9, 2019 at 12:56 am
RE: The elephant conumdrum - by Athene - September 9, 2019 at 1:00 am
RE: The elephant conumdrum - by Rahn127 - September 9, 2019 at 1:06 am
RE: The elephant conumdrum - by Grandizer - September 9, 2019 at 1:13 am
RE: The elephant conumdrum - by Rahn127 - September 9, 2019 at 1:28 am
RE: The elephant conumdrum - by Athene - September 9, 2019 at 1:49 am
RE: The elephant conumdrum - by Grandizer - September 9, 2019 at 5:05 am
RE: The elephant conumdrum - by Athene - September 9, 2019 at 1:34 am
RE: The elephant conumdrum - by Rahn127 - September 9, 2019 at 4:27 am
RE: The elephant conumdrum - by Succubus - September 15, 2019 at 12:08 am
RE: The elephant conumdrum - by Little lunch - September 9, 2019 at 1:36 am
RE: The elephant conumdrum - by EgoDeath - September 9, 2019 at 2:59 am
RE: The elephant conumdrum - by Divinity - September 13, 2019 at 10:45 am
RE: The elephant conumdrum - by Rahn127 - September 13, 2019 at 1:35 pm
RE: The elephant conumdrum - by Divinity - September 13, 2019 at 8:05 pm
RE: The elephant conumdrum - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 13, 2019 at 7:18 pm
RE: The elephant conumdrum - by no one - September 13, 2019 at 8:15 pm
RE: The elephant conumdrum - by brewer - September 13, 2019 at 8:23 pm
RE: The elephant conumdrum - by Rahn127 - September 13, 2019 at 9:34 pm
RE: The elephant conumdrum - by chimp3 - September 13, 2019 at 9:45 pm
RE: The elephant conumdrum - by Nay_Sayer - September 14, 2019 at 1:01 am
RE: The elephant conumdrum - by Rahn127 - September 14, 2019 at 8:05 am

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