RE: The Jesus story has details that is most definitely made up i just realized!!!
September 9, 2019 at 7:52 am
(This post was last modified: September 9, 2019 at 7:54 am by Fake Messiah.)
I admit that as a nonbeliever, I don't need Jesus to be a myth. If it turns out the mythicists are wrong, and one day some good evidence for a real Jesus gets uncovered, it's not as if Christianity will suddenly start making sense. But in all honesty I can't see any indication that there was some historical person behind the Jesus myth aside from Jesus ben-Ananias and few other characters whose life histories were borrowed to make Jesus's.
I guess I used to think that Jesus was like Sai Baba because there was some real guy who changed his name into Sai Baba and had followers who invented and believed that he performed many miracles like raising the dead, healing, teleportation.
But then again, Sai Baba was incredibly popular person and there are many records about him, some favorable and some not, but without any doubt he existed and for thousands of years people won't doubt his existence. And he was also very influential among politicians, so if you believe Jesus existed and was son of God you can't notice that some schmuck like Sai Baba was much better in business of a holy man than Jesus.
And also if you take Bible as source of information about historical Jesus which information would you take for granted? Gospels start with Jesus's Genealogy and you know it's all bullshit because none of these OT characters existed. And then more and more bullshit until you come to Jesus being baptized by John the Baptist which some consider to be real event - you know after paragraphs and paragraphs where people just freely lied and inserted their made-up stories we finally come to some "truth". And why should that be true? John the Baptist cult makes no sense. If Jesus was real God then why would he need John the Baptist, especially why would John's cult continue to exist if Jesus was the real God? Wouldn't other cult be a blasphemy?
And then are still more gospels and stories about Jesus that were not chosen into the "official" Bible that give even more different picture of Jesus. And why weren't they chosen? Nobody knows. So this also shows how somebody created Jesus out of mountain of myths.
I guess I used to think that Jesus was like Sai Baba because there was some real guy who changed his name into Sai Baba and had followers who invented and believed that he performed many miracles like raising the dead, healing, teleportation.
But then again, Sai Baba was incredibly popular person and there are many records about him, some favorable and some not, but without any doubt he existed and for thousands of years people won't doubt his existence. And he was also very influential among politicians, so if you believe Jesus existed and was son of God you can't notice that some schmuck like Sai Baba was much better in business of a holy man than Jesus.
And also if you take Bible as source of information about historical Jesus which information would you take for granted? Gospels start with Jesus's Genealogy and you know it's all bullshit because none of these OT characters existed. And then more and more bullshit until you come to Jesus being baptized by John the Baptist which some consider to be real event - you know after paragraphs and paragraphs where people just freely lied and inserted their made-up stories we finally come to some "truth". And why should that be true? John the Baptist cult makes no sense. If Jesus was real God then why would he need John the Baptist, especially why would John's cult continue to exist if Jesus was the real God? Wouldn't other cult be a blasphemy?
And then are still more gospels and stories about Jesus that were not chosen into the "official" Bible that give even more different picture of Jesus. And why weren't they chosen? Nobody knows. So this also shows how somebody created Jesus out of mountain of myths.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
