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Ecology topic
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RE: Ecology topic
(September 30, 2019 at 11:28 am)Fake Messiah Wrote:
(September 29, 2019 at 6:59 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Are we discussing how an ideal world would handle climate change, or how this world will handle climate change?
You first start with ideal so that you know what to shoot for.

(September 29, 2019 at 6:59 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: I'd love to advocate for a solution, just as soon as what I'm working on is a credible solution rather than a niche marketing program.

You would be surprised how much can be done with existing technology.

Recently Al Gore wrote in New York Times

Quote:we still retain the ability to avoid truly catastrophic, civilization-ending consequences if we act quickly.

This is our generation’s life-or-death challenge. It is Thermopylae, Agincourt, Trafalgar, Lexington and Concord, Dunkirk, Pearl Harbor, the Battle of the Bulge, Midway and Sept. 11. At moments of such crisis, the United States and the world have to be mobilized, and before we can be mobilized, we have to be inspired to believe the battle can be won. Is it really too much to ask now that politicians summon the courage to do what most all of them already know is necessary?

We have the technology we need.
[...]

a year before the Paris climate agreement was reached — electricity from solar and wind was cheaper than new coal and gas plants in probably 1 percent of the world. Today, only five years later, solar and wind provide the cheapest sources of new electricity in two-thirds of the world. Within five more years, these sources are expected to provide the cheapest new electricity in the entire world. And in 10 years, solar and wind electricity will be cheaper nearly everywhere than the electricity that existing fossil fuel plants will be able to provide.

But he also says that that's not enough, he also mentions that carbon needs to be removed

Quote:And so far, the best available technology for pulling carbon dioxide from the air is something called a tree.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/20/opini...hange.html

So here's an idea for a solution that we already have the technology: how about turning Sahara into the rainforest. Using solar mirror heating there's so much energy there that it could be irrigated and then also create synthetic fuel for cars, and even build plasma arc gasification devices to destroy the garbage (that's when you put garbage through very strong and hot electricity discharge).
I mean that would solve gas for cars problem, problems with hurricanes, garbage.

Now who would be needed to be pushed so that comes to life?

But then again maybe the reality is that this is a corporate world so maybe some guy should do it. Heck maybe I could buy Sahara and start irrigation, start making fuel for cars and also by plasma arc gasification of plastics I would brake it into elements which I could then sell (like sulfur, hydrogen, carbon). Heck most of the garbage is already dumped in Africa.

I would quickly become not only the richest mothafucka in the world but also the most beloved one. They would call me "the good trillionare".





Powerful people know their self-interests better than hoi polloi, and have far more tools at their disposal and far greater determination and dexterity in using them to serve their self-interests.


If you make it clear from the beginning what you are shooting for steps on their self-interests, your idea is a nonstarter.
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Ecology topic - by Fake Messiah - May 13, 2019 at 9:16 am
RE: Ecology topic - by Fake Messiah - May 16, 2019 at 11:48 am
RE: Ecology topic - by Gawdzilla Sama - May 16, 2019 at 12:56 pm
RE: Ecology topic - by Amarok - July 7, 2019 at 1:26 am
RE: Ecology topic - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - July 7, 2019 at 6:37 am
RE: Ecology topic - by Amarok - July 7, 2019 at 10:35 am
RE: Ecology topic - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - July 7, 2019 at 10:43 am
RE: Ecology topic - by Amarok - July 7, 2019 at 10:46 am
RE: Ecology topic - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - July 7, 2019 at 10:47 am
RE: Ecology topic - by Amarok - July 7, 2019 at 11:04 am
RE: Ecology topic - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 16, 2019 at 1:32 pm
RE: Ecology topic - by Fake Messiah - May 16, 2019 at 5:03 pm
RE: Ecology topic - by Fireball - May 16, 2019 at 7:08 pm
RE: Ecology topic - by Fake Messiah - May 17, 2019 at 11:18 am
RE: Ecology topic - by Fake Messiah - June 9, 2019 at 12:59 pm
RE: Ecology topic - by Sal - June 10, 2019 at 5:27 am
RE: Ecology topic - by Anomalocaris - July 7, 2019 at 11:08 am
RE: Ecology topic - by Fake Messiah - July 10, 2019 at 2:06 am
RE: Ecology topic - by Fake Messiah - July 21, 2019 at 6:31 am
RE: Ecology topic - by Fake Messiah - August 1, 2019 at 5:22 am
RE: Ecology topic - by Fake Messiah - August 21, 2019 at 1:20 am
RE: Ecology topic - by Fake Messiah - August 28, 2019 at 1:18 am
RE: Ecology topic - by Fake Messiah - September 14, 2019 at 12:43 pm
RE: Ecology topic - by Fake Messiah - September 19, 2019 at 3:15 pm
RE: Ecology topic - by Anomalocaris - September 19, 2019 at 5:06 pm
RE: Ecology topic - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - June 10, 2019 at 1:12 pm
RE: Ecology topic - by Fake Messiah - June 10, 2019 at 3:44 pm
RE: Ecology topic - by Fake Messiah - June 13, 2019 at 3:10 pm
RE: Ecology topic - by Fake Messiah - June 16, 2019 at 7:57 am
RE: Ecology topic - by Sal - June 16, 2019 at 9:13 pm
RE: Ecology topic - by Fake Messiah - June 19, 2019 at 12:07 am
RE: Ecology topic - by Fake Messiah - June 23, 2019 at 1:38 am
RE: Ecology topic - by Fake Messiah - June 26, 2019 at 3:44 pm
RE: Ecology topic - by Fake Messiah - July 7, 2019 at 12:38 am
RE: Ecology topic - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - July 7, 2019 at 6:33 am
RE: Ecology topic - by The Grand Nudger - September 19, 2019 at 3:34 pm
RE: Ecology topic - by Fake Messiah - September 19, 2019 at 4:00 pm
RE: Ecology topic - by The Grand Nudger - September 19, 2019 at 4:26 pm
RE: Ecology topic - by Fake Messiah - September 19, 2019 at 11:28 pm
RE: Ecology topic - by Anomalocaris - September 20, 2019 at 12:07 am
RE: Ecology topic - by Fake Messiah - September 20, 2019 at 12:56 am
RE: Ecology topic - by Fake Messiah - September 20, 2019 at 8:27 am
RE: Ecology topic - by Fake Messiah - September 23, 2019 at 7:06 am
RE: Ecology topic - by The Grand Nudger - September 19, 2019 at 5:15 pm
RE: Ecology topic - by Gawdzilla Sama - September 23, 2019 at 7:37 am
RE: Ecology topic - by Fake Messiah - September 26, 2019 at 8:37 am
RE: Ecology topic - by Fake Messiah - September 27, 2019 at 9:56 am
RE: Ecology topic - by Anomalocaris - September 27, 2019 at 10:43 am
RE: Ecology topic - by The Grand Nudger - September 28, 2019 at 6:38 am
RE: Ecology topic - by Fake Messiah - September 28, 2019 at 10:10 am
RE: Ecology topic - by The Grand Nudger - September 29, 2019 at 12:21 pm
RE: Ecology topic - by Fake Messiah - September 29, 2019 at 3:35 pm
RE: Ecology topic - by The Grand Nudger - September 29, 2019 at 6:59 pm
RE: Ecology topic - by Fake Messiah - September 30, 2019 at 11:28 am
RE: Ecology topic - by Anomalocaris - September 30, 2019 at 12:30 pm
RE: Ecology topic - by Succubus - September 30, 2019 at 3:10 pm
RE: Ecology topic - by Fake Messiah - October 9, 2019 at 7:47 am
RE: Ecology topic - by The Grand Nudger - September 30, 2019 at 11:50 am
RE: Ecology topic - by Gawdzilla Sama - October 9, 2019 at 8:51 am
RE: Ecology topic - by Fake Messiah - October 11, 2019 at 4:30 pm
RE: Ecology topic - by Anomalocaris - October 11, 2019 at 5:02 pm
RE: Ecology topic - by Fake Messiah - October 12, 2019 at 1:35 am
RE: Ecology topic - by Anomalocaris - October 12, 2019 at 2:50 am
RE: Ecology topic - by Fake Messiah - October 16, 2019 at 12:06 am
RE: Ecology topic - by Anomalocaris - October 16, 2019 at 3:10 am
RE: Ecology topic - by Fake Messiah - October 19, 2019 at 12:25 am
RE: Ecology topic - by notimportant1234 - October 19, 2019 at 7:50 pm
RE: Ecology topic - by Fake Messiah - October 20, 2019 at 12:39 am
RE: Ecology topic - by Fake Messiah - October 20, 2019 at 1:21 pm
RE: Ecology topic - by Fake Messiah - October 25, 2019 at 6:42 pm
RE: Ecology topic - by Fake Messiah - October 31, 2019 at 2:37 pm
RE: Ecology topic - by Fake Messiah - November 17, 2019 at 3:25 am
RE: Ecology topic - by notimportant1234 - November 17, 2019 at 5:05 am
RE: Ecology topic - by Anomalocaris - October 19, 2019 at 10:36 pm
RE: Ecology topic - by The Grand Nudger - November 17, 2019 at 9:11 am
RE: Ecology topic - by Fake Messiah - December 20, 2019 at 8:10 pm
RE: Ecology topic - by Fake Messiah - December 26, 2019 at 2:10 pm
RE: Ecology topic - by Fake Messiah - January 22, 2020 at 11:16 am
RE: Ecology topic - by The Grand Nudger - January 22, 2020 at 11:37 am
RE: Ecology topic - by Fake Messiah - January 23, 2020 at 12:11 am
RE: Ecology topic - by The Grand Nudger - January 23, 2020 at 9:24 am
RE: Ecology topic - by LastPoet - January 23, 2020 at 9:51 am
RE: Ecology topic - by The Grand Nudger - January 23, 2020 at 10:45 am

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