Early Islam and healthcare

[Deesse23]

So; Crusaders came to destroy and loot, they were a barbarian horde disguised in metal armors, they came to Muslim lands to kill and rape.

No, they didnt. They came to claim back the holy land for christianity, and thats exactly what they did.* Of course they were well motivated up to the extreme(ism) by propaganda about the muslim world. As a result the crusaders were ruthless in the way they conducted themselves. This however wasnt unique to them, but common to ANY movement as well motivated (ad misled) as the crusaders were.

Lets also not forget that the great success (at first, not in later stages) was partially due to the muslim world being divided and making pacts with christians vs other muslims. The muslim world of the crusades was, by and large, not much morally better than the crusaders. You really need to stop subscribing to this Crusaders= devils vs muslims = Ghandi program. Its ridiculous. If anything there were single persons on both sides who realized that, once parts of the levant were occupied, a live and let live would be of much more benefit, to both sides. You can clearly see this happening in those (rulers) who were born there and who were always in infights with the new arrivals from europe who were much more confrontational. Just have a look at the alliance of Jerusalem with Damascus, which would possibly would have lasted longer, if the leaders of the second crusade would not have pushed an agressive agenda.


*ok, the Normans predominantly looking for loot and personal gains

It's not racism against Europeans since I am admitting the noble role of Rome and Greece in building civilization, but crusaders were a savage rabble that used Christianity to loot and escape poverty.

...which is an oversimplification and painting the crusades with a broad brush, trying to paint them in a worse light than contemporary muslims, who were no different in plotting against their own kind with the religious enemy or waging war within (the muslim community). In other words: [u]Yes, its prejudice against crsaders on your part.

Their relationship to Islamic healthcare was so obvious: Crusaders and Mongols burned down Muslim civilization.

Which is untrue, blatantly so.

The crusades finally failed, resulting in backlash from the muslim world, ending up at the gates of Vienna
The Mongols were stopped (by Mamluks) before they could reach Cairo, and later the Ilkhanate even adopted muslim religion. Hardly a defeat for Islam.
By the time the crusaders arrived, the muslim world was already divided long ago*. Same for the Mogols. If the Muslim world would have been such amazing people they wouldnt have been so weak from the inside that the mongols or crusaders could hurt them.
What did the muslim world do while the Mongols destroyed the Choresmian empire? What did Damascus do when the crusaders faced off Nur ad Din?

*Ummayads vs Abbasids. Taifas in Al Andalus, infights with Almohads, Almohavids, etc.. They didnt need Crusaders and Mongols to kill and persecute each other.

Today, Muslims are under the control of the sons of Crusaders

Bullshit. The crusades are gone 800y now, and there isnt much that connects a modern european to the crusades. Bull-shit. Drop your "i am special and persecuted" complex, for the upteenth time.

who evolved through the Illumination era to turn against Christianity and advocate secular laws, local criminals are always chosen intentionally to guard and deliver the interests of their employers.

More bullshit.
Not my (modern, secular, illminated, european) fault that you and your culture is stuck in the late medieval, refusing to realize that separation of religion and state is necessary for evolution of your society to the better. Islam (-ic culture) had made steps in the righ tdirection in the past, that is correct, but then took the wron way. Stop blaming ayone but yourself (religion/culture) for your own mistakes. Its pathetic.