(October 16, 2019 at 10:31 pm)Belaqua Wrote:(October 16, 2019 at 9:52 pm)Brian37 Wrote: If God already had everything , which "all powerful" would denote, there would be no need to do anything. If it would anyway, then humans are nothing but his toys, lab rats.
I don't see the reasoning behind this part yet.
Is the argument: "If God didn't need to make us, then we are just his toys or lab rats"?
Why couldn't someone argue that he didn't need to make us, but we are more than just toys or lab rats? What is it about a lack of necessity that makes us toys? Why couldn't someone say: "God didn't need to make us, but he did it anyway, and he made us valuable independent beings"?
I'm not saying you're wrong, I just don't see the link in the two concepts.
God is omniscient, he knew our thoughts and actions before he created us so in what way are we independent beings? What motivated him to do this?
And please; spare me the free will nonsense.
It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite. Drich.
