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Godly Motivations
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RE: Godly Motivations
(October 17, 2019 at 12:14 am)Succubus Wrote: God is omniscient, he knew our thoughts and actions before he created us

God, they say, doesn't know things the way people know them. If I say "I know your phone number," that requires the existence of two separate things: me and your phone number. 

Since God is perfect unity and simplicity, there can't be two things. God is omniscient in the sense that all possible objects of knowledge are included in him already. 

Quote: so in what way are we independent beings? 

Our existence isn't independent. We depend on God, who is existence itself. Without existence, nothing would exist. 

As for our choices and behavior, I am asking Brian37 why, if God made us without having to, this would make us of necessity NOT valuable, free, or non-toylike. I don't know what his argument is.

Quote:What motivated him to do this? 

God has no motivations. 

As always, I am only describing here the standard theological arguments.
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Godly Motivations - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 16, 2019 at 5:43 am
RE: Godly Motivations - by Cod - October 16, 2019 at 6:17 am
RE: Godly Motivations - by Grandizer - October 16, 2019 at 6:53 am
RE: Godly Motivations - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 16, 2019 at 7:00 am
RE: Godly Motivations - by Pat Mustard - October 16, 2019 at 6:13 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by arewethereyet - October 16, 2019 at 6:29 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by Belacqua - October 16, 2019 at 6:48 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by Anomalocaris - October 16, 2019 at 6:53 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by The Valkyrie - October 16, 2019 at 6:56 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by Belacqua - October 16, 2019 at 7:06 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by Anomalocaris - October 16, 2019 at 7:08 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by arewethereyet - October 16, 2019 at 7:08 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by Belacqua - October 16, 2019 at 7:26 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 16, 2019 at 7:47 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by Belacqua - October 16, 2019 at 7:51 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 16, 2019 at 7:52 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by Belacqua - October 16, 2019 at 7:58 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by Anomalocaris - October 16, 2019 at 8:02 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by Anomalocaris - October 16, 2019 at 7:37 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 16, 2019 at 7:49 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by Anomalocaris - October 16, 2019 at 7:56 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by no one - October 16, 2019 at 9:39 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by Brian37 - October 16, 2019 at 9:52 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by Belacqua - October 16, 2019 at 10:31 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by Anomalocaris - October 16, 2019 at 11:03 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by Succubus - October 17, 2019 at 12:14 am
RE: Godly Motivations - by Belacqua - October 17, 2019 at 12:25 am
RE: Godly Motivations - by Simon Moon - October 22, 2019 at 5:39 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by The Valkyrie - October 16, 2019 at 10:48 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by Succubus - October 17, 2019 at 12:43 am
RE: Godly Motivations - by Belacqua - October 17, 2019 at 12:59 am
RE: Godly Motivations - by John 6IX Breezy - October 22, 2019 at 10:46 am
RE: Godly Motivations - by John 6IX Breezy - October 22, 2019 at 2:47 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by Anomalocaris - October 22, 2019 at 3:00 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by John 6IX Breezy - October 22, 2019 at 3:41 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 22, 2019 at 4:06 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by John 6IX Breezy - October 22, 2019 at 4:39 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by mordant - October 22, 2019 at 10:19 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by John 6IX Breezy - October 22, 2019 at 10:53 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by mordant - October 24, 2019 at 4:02 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by John 6IX Breezy - October 25, 2019 at 6:17 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by mordant - October 26, 2019 at 9:31 am
RE: Godly Motivations - by Drich - October 30, 2019 at 2:33 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 30, 2019 at 3:54 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by The Grand Nudger - October 30, 2019 at 2:42 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by EgoDeath - October 30, 2019 at 4:49 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by The Grand Nudger - October 30, 2019 at 10:08 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 31, 2019 at 6:12 am
RE: Godly Motivations - by The Grand Nudger - October 31, 2019 at 6:34 am



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