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Godly Motivations
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RE: Godly Motivations
(October 24, 2019 at 4:02 pm)mordant Wrote: I never said that "without limits" is either a coherent or real concept; it is simply the god concept that many theists have. Omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, omnibenvolent, etc. Their god is fabulized enough so that it can't just be a glorified version of themselves. And yet ... of course, it still is. It is basically what they WISH they could be ... non-contingent, non-dependent, and not lacking for sufficient knowledge and confidence and potency.

So that is the concept I critique.

Hmm although I agree that the idea of "without limits" might represent very lightly the beliefs of many theists, I also think that these are concepts that are very easy to strawman. For example, if you say that if God is without limits, then He should be able to create a square circle, I would say you've created a caricature. I think the infinite and the very large are very difficult for the human mind to comprehend. There are many paradoxes, such as Zeno's arrows, whose premises revolve around infinity, and I don't think that's a coincidence. I think gloves and masks are required when talking about such things, because our minds are not bound by reality and its very easy for them to imagine "square circle" scenarios as if they mapped onto the real world. So I think that even if all the omnis are true and real attributes of a true and real God, it would still be easy either misunderstand or make unrealistic.
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Godly Motivations - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 16, 2019 at 5:43 am
RE: Godly Motivations - by Cod - October 16, 2019 at 6:17 am
RE: Godly Motivations - by Grandizer - October 16, 2019 at 6:53 am
RE: Godly Motivations - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 16, 2019 at 7:00 am
RE: Godly Motivations - by Pat Mustard - October 16, 2019 at 6:13 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by arewethereyet - October 16, 2019 at 6:29 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by Belacqua - October 16, 2019 at 6:48 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by Anomalocaris - October 16, 2019 at 6:53 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by The Valkyrie - October 16, 2019 at 6:56 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by Belacqua - October 16, 2019 at 7:06 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by Anomalocaris - October 16, 2019 at 7:08 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by arewethereyet - October 16, 2019 at 7:08 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by Belacqua - October 16, 2019 at 7:26 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 16, 2019 at 7:47 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by Belacqua - October 16, 2019 at 7:51 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 16, 2019 at 7:52 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by Belacqua - October 16, 2019 at 7:58 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by Anomalocaris - October 16, 2019 at 8:02 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by Anomalocaris - October 16, 2019 at 7:37 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 16, 2019 at 7:49 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by Anomalocaris - October 16, 2019 at 7:56 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by no one - October 16, 2019 at 9:39 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by Brian37 - October 16, 2019 at 9:52 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by Belacqua - October 16, 2019 at 10:31 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by Anomalocaris - October 16, 2019 at 11:03 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by Succubus - October 17, 2019 at 12:14 am
RE: Godly Motivations - by Belacqua - October 17, 2019 at 12:25 am
RE: Godly Motivations - by Simon Moon - October 22, 2019 at 5:39 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by The Valkyrie - October 16, 2019 at 10:48 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by Succubus - October 17, 2019 at 12:43 am
RE: Godly Motivations - by Belacqua - October 17, 2019 at 12:59 am
RE: Godly Motivations - by John 6IX Breezy - October 22, 2019 at 10:46 am
RE: Godly Motivations - by John 6IX Breezy - October 22, 2019 at 2:47 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by Anomalocaris - October 22, 2019 at 3:00 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by John 6IX Breezy - October 22, 2019 at 3:41 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 22, 2019 at 4:06 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by John 6IX Breezy - October 22, 2019 at 4:39 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by mordant - October 22, 2019 at 10:19 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by John 6IX Breezy - October 22, 2019 at 10:53 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by mordant - October 24, 2019 at 4:02 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by John 6IX Breezy - October 25, 2019 at 6:17 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by mordant - October 26, 2019 at 9:31 am
RE: Godly Motivations - by Drich - October 30, 2019 at 2:33 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 30, 2019 at 3:54 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by The Grand Nudger - October 30, 2019 at 2:42 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by EgoDeath - October 30, 2019 at 4:49 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by The Grand Nudger - October 30, 2019 at 10:08 pm
RE: Godly Motivations - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 31, 2019 at 6:12 am
RE: Godly Motivations - by The Grand Nudger - October 31, 2019 at 6:34 am



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