(November 18, 2019 at 7:01 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote:I take it as a concession given how incredibly lazy it is. E.g. i dont feel like explaining my position so heres a wikipedia link. Lame.(November 18, 2019 at 4:34 am)EgoDeath Wrote: If you cant explain how without referring me to wikipedia, ill take that as you conceding.
The citation of Wiki, is not a concession, but the deployment of the modal fallacy most definitely is.
What, in effect, Grandiser is claiming is that although some being has already "actualised" your choice of x, you do not necessarily have to make the choice of x.
This is self contradictory on it's face and can be dismissed.
ETA: Or alternatively, said being has evidently not "actualised" anything at all, since you still have the option to choose NOT x.
OR, "actualising" anything means something else to Grandiser.
And yes, ive heard this argument from christian apologists time and time again. It makes absolutely no sense.
If you're frightened of dying, and you're holding on, you'll see devils tearing your life away. But if you've made your peace, then the devils are really angels, freeing you from the Earth.
