RE: My argument for atheism +
November 23, 2019 at 7:26 pm
(This post was last modified: November 23, 2019 at 7:29 pm by Tom Fearnley.)
(November 23, 2019 at 7:10 pm)notimportant1234 Wrote:(November 22, 2019 at 10:22 pm)Tom Fearnley Wrote: My counter for atheism that beats all arguments for God: God doesn't have a brain or neurons - he's immaterial not made of matter or energy - so how can he think thoughts or have knowledge? Without a brain or neurons he couldn't create a universe or create anything else.
I've never got any evidence that God can think without a brain or neurons.
I think you would lose an argument because of this statement, you are claiming that knowledge and thoughts can be achieved only by our means of perception.
Why is this wrong? It is not, but you can t prove that this is the only way to achieve knowledge or thoughts and the burden of proof falls on you.
The only point atheist have (which is not actually a point) is that we Don t know that a deity exists so we are not obligated to act upon a deity based system.
But there is no evidence where there should be of thoughts coming from anywhere other than the brain/neurons.
(November 23, 2019 at 7:23 pm)Grandizer Wrote:(November 23, 2019 at 5:12 pm)Tom Fearnley Wrote: One counter to my argument could be that God is all-powerful so doesn't require a brain:
My counter is that we humans are very poorly designed: We eat and breath down the same tube, we feel excess amounts of pain, we die after less than 115 years, our eyes can go blind etc etc so how could something all powerful have created us? Something with limited power almost certainly created us therefore. However this thing of limited power doesn't have a brain/neurons so almost certainly has less power than a human. How could this theist God create a universe? It makes most sense that something of limited power - nature - created us.
Because thought comes from the brain/neurons. There is no evidence that it can come from something/somewhere else. But again my counter to my own argument is that God is all powerful. See above.
Many Christians would say that the "fall of man" is why we feel pain and experience death and such.
Yes but that would make their God very unpowerful. He couldn't even stop us from feeling pain. Thanks for the response how do you counter it?
