(November 23, 2019 at 7:42 pm)Stoneheart Wrote:(November 23, 2019 at 5:34 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: It's always the same with you lot - you make all of these groundbreaking, earthshattering claims about your superpowers, and have fuck all to back it up with. You haven't offered anything testable, any explanations - you've simply repeated the claim 'This is real', as if we're supposed to take it on trust about these other dimensions and astral projection.
It doesn't just sound looney, it is looney.
Boru
Do you know what Phosphenes are? It is not woo. Comes from Greek meaning to show light.
Phosphenes are very interesting to look into (Pun intended).
Researching Phosphenes is interesting. Light and geometric shapes coming from the mind. The same shapes seen all over the world. It has been suggested that prehistoric drawing and paintings are representations of phosphenes.
Looneys have been around for a very long time.
I just found this:
According to Lewis-Williams's theory, the enigmatic geometric shapes (entoptics) evident in prehistoric rock art throughout the world indicate the first stage of altered states of consciousness as the shaman prepares to enter the spiritual or supernatural world (Lewis-Williams & Dowson 1989: 6063).
Neuroscientists have reproduced these effects in laboratory conditions, which corroborates Lewis-Williams's shamanistic theory, since it implies that these experiences are common to all human beings, including early humans, as they share with modem humans a common neurological structure.
https://www.thefreelibrary.com/The+archa...0381835838
Lewis-Williams and Dowson also suggested that the experiencing of phosphenes by shamans was probably (that's 'probably', not 'possibly') enhanced by hallucinogenic drugs.
But phosphenes aren't mysterious and have bugger all to do with 'other dimensions'. Pressure on the eye can cause them, as can magnets (as well as the drugs referred to earlier). They only seem mysterious because ignorant, lazy woo types can't be arsed to do a bit of reading in actual science - it's much easier and more comforting to build piles of nonsensical rubbish around a common and well-understood natural phenomenon.
Boru
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