RE: Time to embrace Islam!
December 2, 2019 at 8:06 am
(This post was last modified: December 2, 2019 at 8:27 am by R00tKiT.)
(December 1, 2019 at 10:36 pm)Paleophyte Wrote: If you were actually giving religions balanced treatment this line of questioning would lead you to wonder why God Allmighty is mucking about with mortal Prophets to deliver His Message.
Considering how many religious people are there today thanks to these mortal Prophets, including two damn billion people because of the Islamic prophet, God's way isn't as hidden as you blatantly claim here is it ?
(December 1, 2019 at 10:36 pm)Paleophyte Wrote: It isn't as if He couldn't just have His Message boom from the sky on 24/7 auto-repeat or simply have you born knowing it.
Many standard religious arguments establish this is the case, we are born with a very strong predisposition toward religious belief, it's not hard to find scholarly articles supporting that. As of the message booming from the sky 24/7 part, you already have a damn sky above you and a world built in an orderly fashion, that is the message, some might argue.
If there was actually a magical line from the sky with the words of God coming down through it, a couple of scientists will figure out the laws that govern the magical line, and boom the a-line-ism community is born, the magical line is just is.
(December 1, 2019 at 10:36 pm)Paleophyte Wrote: Given the wars that this has led to within and between religions this is clearly a Failed System.
People went to much more devastating wars even with the absence of religious reasons.
(December 1, 2019 at 10:36 pm)Paleophyte Wrote: As you have dismissed Christianity and Judaism, we may now dismiss Islam for the patent nonsense that it is.
I gave good reasons that you didn't refute to dimiss each. It's your turn to give a good reason to dismiss Islam, aside from empty claims.
(December 2, 2019 at 2:44 am)Deesse23 Wrote:(December 1, 2019 at 2:57 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: You don't get to choose how truth might be revealed to you. Instead one should get up and look actively for answers, which isn't the case with atheists when dealing with Islam.I am looking, but i am not gullible like you, thats the difference. Just because i dont have answers for everything doesnt mean im gonna make up shit, or accept shit others have made up, like you.
Ah, you're looking, meanwhile you're calling the Islamic message shit.
(December 2, 2019 at 2:44 am)Deesse23 Wrote: First it was "satisfactory" answers, now its "reasonable". Why the backpedaling? I still stick to answers that are (demonstrably) correct, you stick to "my holy book saz so, therefore: reasonable", ok?
I am not pretending there arent answers, you are pretending there are! All the time. Because of your gullibility
You didn't address any of the arguments made in this post. You're kindly asked to read what was said about the isnad and Muhammad's challenge to his contemporaries.
(December 2, 2019 at 2:44 am)Deesse23 Wrote: The only sad thing is your ignorance and the gullibility you are demonstrating over and over.
I know enough about your holy book to know its #1 nonsense and #2 repugnant:
Women being inherently less worth than men?
Gosts talking to people?
Moons splitting in half?
Death to apostates?
You never get tired of the old stereotypes people. Let's start with an example, men are on average physically stronger than women, so yes, women do fucking display inherently less traits than men. And no, they aren't less worth than men, this is unexistent in the Qur'an.
As a result of their fucking biological differences, and because women are sometimes pregnant, deal with substantial mood swings that affect their judgment, and men, well, don't menstruate, God gave men the rights adapted to their fucking biological ability, got it ?
Death to apostates isn't in the Qur'an anywhere, so no, you don't know enough about my holy book.
(December 2, 2019 at 2:44 am)Deesse23 Wrote: Correct, there is another muslim on the forum, you already have met him. He is just as much a nutter as you are, and probably more ignorant (if thats even possible). On top of that he has allowed his religion to make him a racist and hypocrite, amongst other things. If thats what your religion makes of people: Thanks, but no thanks.
Tell that to him not me, Islam by the way doesn't allow talking of someone behind of his back, even if it's on forum, did your moral systems ever reach that?
(December 2, 2019 at 2:44 am)Deesse23 Wrote: Boring, thanks, but no thanks, ill leave that silly carrot on a stick to fools like you, who are thinking that fucking 70 virgins for ever is gonna be lots of fun. Spoiler: They wont be virgins for long.
Yeah, the hadith reporting that is not authentic. You don't know anything about our religion besides common stereotypes, I suggest you keep looking.