(June 5, 2009 at 4:25 pm)leo-rcc Wrote: I am sorry to say it doesn't. All you do is write a 1500 line apology for something that is crystal clear in your holy scripture. The fact alone that you need to go into such detail just to talk your way out of it already gives away the shaky ground your scripture is based.
I think you are a nice guy and I believe you when you say that you don't believe domestic violence is condoned. But don't try to convince us of that, convince the Imams that advocate that it is condoned.
First of all, I did not write a 1500 line apology, I just tried to explain the verse in detail, but unfortunately it seems that you have discarded the logic behind the verse and did not fully understand the information or read all of it.
Like I said in the second paragraph that the behaviour of Muslims should not represents Islam because if they do something wrong or do not follow the proper principles than you cannot blame Islam for it. For example, the US Law says do not kill, but the number of murderers in the US are continuously increasing year by year. Who do you blame? The US Law or the Amercian Citizens who are committing the murder. Should I judge America by looking at its criminals? Obviously Not. So if certain Imams do encourage beatings (like I said, the proper arabic translation is hit and hence not leaving marks) then they are wrong and not the Islam.
However, if you want a Muslim who can represent Islam in its truest form, then look at its last Prophet. He never hit any of his wives and never any of his wives ever complained about him. Why? because he knew how to be a proper husband according to the Islamic principles and his wives knew how to be a wife according to the Islamic principles. Therefore, he never hit any of his wives and discourages it because hitting (not beating or leaving marks) is the last resort according the verse.
I was not surprised that you pick this verse out, because it's a verse that majority of people pick out when they try to show unjust for Muslim women. But in fact, Islam is just to Men and Women.
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