(December 19, 2019 at 3:04 pm)Brian37 Wrote:(December 18, 2019 at 5:38 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Actually, in most versions of the story, Apollo offered her the gift of prophecy in return for a shag. She agreed, got the gift, and then reneged on her part of the deal. The curse to not be believed was a punishment not for refusing to fuck Apollo, but for breaking her word.
And Ajax got what was coming to him, so it all evened out in the end.
Boru
Yes which is why Ajax was still considered a hero after raping her.
It still does not change that Apollo who was the god in power used his position to bully her. She agreed like a rape victim agrees to survive. That is not the same as mutual consent.
Think about what you are saying Boru, Apollo in the old mythology, didn't give her the gift of prophecy because he was altruistic. He wanted to get laid. He gave it to her as a punishment., because she wouldn't fuck him. On top of allowing Ajax to rape her. That is not an "agreement" on her part, anymore than a bank robbery hostage opening the vault is an agreement.
You have a great obstinacy when it comes to getting things wrong. Ajax was killed by the gods for raping Cassandra (which god depends on which version of the story you read).
No, Apollo didn't give her the gift of prophecy as a punishment. He gave it to her so she'd agree to shag him. Imagine the conversation:
Apollo: I'm horny. Fancy a shag?
Cassandra: Umm...
Apollo: C'mon - I'll make you a prophetess.
Cassandra: Ok, cool.
Apollo: *zing* Now you have the gift of prophecy. Out of those robes, Toots.
Cassandra: Ha ha. You can't take back the gift. No nookie for YOU, pal.
Apollo: Grr. Ok, but no one will believe your prophecies. See how that works out for you.
And if any of the gods bears responsibility for Ajax raping Cassandra, it's Athena, not Apollo.
Boru
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