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[Serious] The Humanities
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RE: The Humanities
(December 25, 2019 at 12:39 am)Belacqua Wrote: The thing to do is to compare literature by Christians in Romance languages that isn't explicitly religious to pre-Christian literature.

I'm not even sure what that means ? rephrase perhaps ?

Quote:Greek tragedy exists because they felt that there are times when no resolution to problems of justice are possible. Christians think there always is an answer with God.

Then you mean romance with the specifics of Christian belief thrown in, not romance persay.  Also that would be true of any religion that believes in an afterlife, and especially justice in an afterlife they are not as rare as Christians would have us believe.

Quote:As an obvious example, you remember that Achilles spends the first half of the book pouting in his tent. He refuses to fight for the Argives because on the way to the war when they raped and pillaged a small town Achilles kills a girl's parents, rapes and kidnaps her and takes her into sexual slavery. He feels he's got her fair and square, but Agamemnon likes her too and takes her. Achilles' wounded pride and feeling of sexual rights overcomes his sense of duty to his country. This is presented in the story as understandable. He is finally motivated to fight when Hector kills his male lover Patroclus. A sense of personal outrage incites him to revenge, not on behalf of his country or king. He kills Hector but dies pretty soon himself. 

I think everybody would agree that it's hard to imagine a Christian epic with such a hero.

Such things reflect the reality of heros, that they are broken, consumed by power and alongside their greatness have deep flaws, Christians also use examples like the one above (King David for example) as hero's of God's love and redemption all the time.
Maybe it was even made up from a Greek play, who knows. ?


Quote:It seems to be true that we respond better to characters than to abstractions. Kids understand The Little Engine that Could more than a general admonition that it's good to keep trying. Just in general we listen to stories of events more than lists of moral laws.

But if you have counter-examples I'd be happy to hear them.

I think I know what you are saying, but law's generally aren't created in comic books, they are created by governments by example and precedence.
'Those who ask a lot of questions may seem stupid, but those who don't ask questions stay stupid'
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The Humanities - by Belacqua - December 21, 2019 at 11:50 pm
RE: The Humanities - by Abaddon_ire - December 22, 2019 at 12:32 am
RE: The Humanities - by Belacqua - December 22, 2019 at 12:47 am
RE: The Humanities - by Anomalocaris - December 22, 2019 at 1:41 am
RE: The Humanities - by Abaddon_ire - December 22, 2019 at 1:46 am
RE: The Humanities - by Belacqua - December 22, 2019 at 2:45 am
RE: The Humanities - by Fake Messiah - December 22, 2019 at 2:03 am
RE: The Humanities - by LadyForCamus - December 22, 2019 at 11:37 am
RE: The Humanities - by possibletarian - December 22, 2019 at 11:23 pm
RE: The Humanities - by Belacqua - December 23, 2019 at 12:51 am
RE: The Humanities - by Fake Messiah - December 23, 2019 at 1:24 am
RE: The Humanities - by Belacqua - December 23, 2019 at 2:01 am
RE: The Humanities - by Fake Messiah - December 23, 2019 at 2:29 am
RE: The Humanities - by possibletarian - December 24, 2019 at 12:50 pm
RE: The Humanities - by Belacqua - December 24, 2019 at 7:38 pm
RE: The Humanities - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 22, 2019 at 12:23 pm
RE: The Humanities - by Anomalocaris - December 22, 2019 at 1:25 pm
RE: The Humanities - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 22, 2019 at 7:06 pm
RE: The Humanities - by brewer - December 22, 2019 at 1:49 pm
RE: The Humanities - by Belacqua - December 22, 2019 at 5:50 pm
RE: The Humanities - by Succubus - December 22, 2019 at 6:17 pm
RE: The Humanities - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 22, 2019 at 7:10 pm
RE: The Humanities - by Belacqua - December 22, 2019 at 7:41 pm
RE: The Humanities - by LadyForCamus - December 22, 2019 at 9:04 pm
RE: The Humanities - by Belacqua - December 22, 2019 at 10:49 pm
RE: The Humanities - by LadyForCamus - December 23, 2019 at 1:58 am
RE: The Humanities - by Belacqua - December 23, 2019 at 2:53 am
RE: The Humanities - by LadyForCamus - December 23, 2019 at 3:42 am
RE: The Humanities - by Belacqua - December 23, 2019 at 5:36 am
RE: The Humanities - by brewer - December 23, 2019 at 11:54 am
RE: The Humanities - by LadyForCamus - December 23, 2019 at 2:54 pm
RE: The Humanities - by Belacqua - December 23, 2019 at 6:59 pm
RE: The Humanities - by possibletarian - December 24, 2019 at 7:31 pm
RE: The Humanities - by Belacqua - December 25, 2019 at 12:39 am
RE: The Humanities - by possibletarian - December 25, 2019 at 6:57 am
RE: The Humanities - by Belacqua - December 25, 2019 at 7:17 am
RE: The Humanities - by possibletarian - December 25, 2019 at 6:42 pm
RE: The Humanities - by Belacqua - December 25, 2019 at 7:07 pm
RE: The Humanities - by possibletarian - December 26, 2019 at 9:47 am
RE: The Humanities - by Belacqua - December 27, 2019 at 2:43 am
RE: The Humanities - by possibletarian - December 27, 2019 at 10:05 am
RE: The Humanities - by brewer - December 22, 2019 at 6:26 pm
RE: The Humanities - by LadyForCamus - December 22, 2019 at 6:58 pm
RE: The Humanities - by The Grand Nudger - December 23, 2019 at 2:20 am
RE: The Humanities - by The Grand Nudger - December 23, 2019 at 2:54 am
RE: The Humanities - by Mister Agenda - December 23, 2019 at 10:43 am
RE: The Humanities - by The Grand Nudger - December 23, 2019 at 12:04 pm
RE: The Humanities - by The Grand Nudger - December 24, 2019 at 9:53 pm
RE: The Humanities - by brewer - December 24, 2019 at 10:09 pm
RE: The Humanities - by The Grand Nudger - December 24, 2019 at 11:28 pm
RE: The Humanities - by Gawdzilla Sama - December 25, 2019 at 7:09 pm
RE: The Humanities - by The Grand Nudger - December 26, 2019 at 1:40 am
RE: The Humanities - by possibletarian - December 26, 2019 at 10:23 am
RE: The Humanities - by Belacqua - December 26, 2019 at 6:23 pm
RE: The Humanities - by Mister Agenda - December 26, 2019 at 9:53 am
RE: The Humanities - by The Grand Nudger - December 26, 2019 at 10:42 am
RE: The Humanities - by possibletarian - December 26, 2019 at 12:27 pm
RE: The Humanities - by The Grand Nudger - December 26, 2019 at 8:00 pm
RE: The Humanities - by Succubus - December 27, 2019 at 9:07 am
RE: The Humanities - by Anomalocaris - December 27, 2019 at 10:01 am
RE: The Humanities - by Mister Agenda - December 27, 2019 at 10:20 am
RE: The Humanities - by possibletarian - December 27, 2019 at 10:25 am
RE: The Humanities - by Belacqua - December 27, 2019 at 7:28 pm
RE: The Humanities - by possibletarian - December 27, 2019 at 10:50 pm



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