(February 14, 2020 at 10:23 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: I have reached a conclusion that people who think hell is "unjustified" and too "brutal" are very naive people with 0 experience in crimes, or they are criminals themselves who never want to taste punishment for their deeds.
The conclusion was reached after spending about 10 years of examining the aftermath of real crimes, especially seeing the images of dead victims before and after the crime.
Hell is so justified. There is no "but"; my consciousness is way better after knowing that the criminal would be thrown in a fire pit to suffer over and over and over. Some people say "how could finite crime result in infinite torture"; but who said hell is infinite? it's heavily long but not infinite, long as in these numbers:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_o...far_future
Again; what does life worth? isn't it priceless? it is so priceless, so precious, it is the prospering of mankind in a planet surrounded by emptiness, it is so precious and beyond limit.
I believe that so many do not know how it feels to be born healthy and pretty, but you get that life stripped away from you by the psychopath.
Hell is justified. Just think about all those who suffered in their deaths by the hands of psychopaths.
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And this folks, is a perfect reason why religions have to disappear.
Not because they reflect any sort of reality, but because they cause adherents to surrender their moral compass, in deference to a book.
Quote:Again; what does life worth? isn't it priceless? it is so priceless, so precious, it is the prospering of mankind in a planet surrounded by emptiness, it is so precious and beyond limit.
I believe that so many do not know how it feels to be born healthy and pretty, but you get that life stripped away from you by the psychopath.
Hell is justified. Just think about all those who suffered in their deaths by the hands of psychopaths.
And this is where your entire attempt at a logical argument for infinite torture for a finite crime, falls apart.
Doesn't this person who has had their life stripped away, and died early, painful deaths, get to spend eternity in Heaven? Do you really think a person spending eternity in Heaven, really wants the person that ended their 80 year finite life to suffer for eternity? How long would it take the victim in Heaven to forgive them? 1,000 years? 10,000 years? 1,000,000 years?
If my finite life was ended cruelly by a psychopath, and I knew the perpetrator was being punished for eternity for their finite crime, Heaven would become a hell for me. I would not want to go on with the knowledge of this ultimate injustice being perpetrated in my name.
See...
That's what morality and justice actually looks like. Not the distorted version your religion advocates for.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
