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Hell is justified.
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RE: Hell is justified.
(February 15, 2020 at 9:04 am)Belacqua Wrote:
(February 14, 2020 at 10:23 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: Hell is justified. 

Concepts of hell have a long and interesting history. 

Some people have been troubled by anyone's desire to have other people suffer, even when it seems deserved. And I agree with you that people are capable of such terrible things that it CAN seem deserved. 

There is an alternate view of hell in which it is not a punishment for evil acts, but the state of someone who can do them. I'm pretty sure this comes from Christian Neoplatonism. 

As you know, Neoplatonism sees God as the One -- infinite, undivided, and wholly simple. This is the soul's true home, and heaven, in this view, is rejoining the undivided. Hell is the opposite extreme, in which division reaches its maximum, and we feel no connection to anything other than ourselves. 
I personally find relief in knowing that wrongdoer's pay for the deeds they knew to be wrong; but kept doing.
As I have said in my OP:
Quote:I have reached a conclusion that people who think hell is "unjustified" and too "brutal" are very naive people with 0 experience in crimes, or they are criminals themselves who never want to taste punishment for their deeds.

Crimes are very painful to the victim; I would seriously doubt and despise a figure that keeps forgiving crimes without punishing them.
Especially crimes that involve torture inflicted from one human to the other. I won't hate a figure more than my hatred to a God that sees such crimes and decided to "forgive them". I don't know what I would say to a victim of war who lost both legs in an airstrike and saw his torturer walk without a trial with a harsh sentence.

Quote:I recently stumbled into a nest of racists and anti-Semites on the Internet. I didn't know it, but it turns out that such people are likely to rally around web sites that support traditional architecture and urban planning. It took me a while but it became clear to me that those people are just evil, and evil for this reason: they deny any connection to people unlike themselves, and narrow down the circle for which they can feel love. At the furthest extreme, that is hellish.

I object to your view of hell; hell to me is suffering every moment for a long long time. It nothing but that; the dweller of hell must feel pain and know that they are in pain, it's similar to what serial killers make their victims live before they die, that's where I see the religion hell as the most suitable end for some criminals.
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Hell is justified. - by WinterHold - February 14, 2020 at 10:23 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by brewer - February 14, 2020 at 10:59 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Peebo-Thuhlu - February 15, 2020 at 2:32 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by WinterHold - February 15, 2020 at 4:22 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Abaddon_ire - February 15, 2020 at 6:21 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Deesse23 - February 15, 2020 at 6:28 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by WinterHold - February 18, 2020 at 11:45 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Deesse23 - February 18, 2020 at 12:52 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by WinterHold - February 18, 2020 at 1:12 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Deesse23 - February 18, 2020 at 1:49 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by WinterHold - February 18, 2020 at 11:47 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Deesse23 - February 15, 2020 at 3:21 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by downbeatplumb - February 15, 2020 at 5:05 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by zebo-the-fat - February 15, 2020 at 7:06 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 15, 2020 at 7:33 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Fake Messiah - February 15, 2020 at 7:55 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - February 15, 2020 at 8:10 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 15, 2020 at 8:12 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Fake Messiah - February 15, 2020 at 8:49 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 15, 2020 at 8:51 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Belacqua - February 15, 2020 at 9:04 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by WinterHold - February 18, 2020 at 4:12 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Silver - February 15, 2020 at 9:12 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Chad32 - February 15, 2020 at 9:29 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by purplepurpose - February 15, 2020 at 10:33 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 15, 2020 at 11:11 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by JackRussell - February 15, 2020 at 1:50 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 16, 2020 at 6:27 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 16, 2020 at 6:54 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Architect Of Fate - February 15, 2020 at 1:58 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 15, 2020 at 2:21 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Nay_Sayer - February 15, 2020 at 9:37 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Pat Mustard - February 16, 2020 at 4:47 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 16, 2020 at 6:56 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 16, 2020 at 7:35 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Deesse23 - February 16, 2020 at 8:18 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Chad32 - February 16, 2020 at 9:15 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by arewethereyet - February 16, 2020 at 9:49 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Chad32 - February 16, 2020 at 9:55 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Simon Moon - February 16, 2020 at 2:19 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by WinterHold - February 16, 2020 at 3:12 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Deesse23 - February 16, 2020 at 4:11 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Chad32 - February 16, 2020 at 3:29 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 16, 2020 at 3:38 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Architect Of Fate - February 16, 2020 at 5:04 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Rhizomorph13 - February 16, 2020 at 5:24 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Valkyrie - February 16, 2020 at 5:27 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Mister Agenda - February 17, 2020 at 2:28 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - February 17, 2020 at 2:44 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Brian37 - February 17, 2020 at 3:21 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Deesse23 - February 18, 2020 at 2:57 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 17, 2020 at 3:34 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Rhizomorph13 - February 17, 2020 at 4:30 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 17, 2020 at 3:37 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 17, 2020 at 5:11 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 17, 2020 at 5:55 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 17, 2020 at 6:55 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Brian37 - February 19, 2020 at 12:51 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Mister Agenda - February 19, 2020 at 1:12 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 19, 2020 at 1:16 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Brian37 - February 17, 2020 at 8:05 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 17, 2020 at 8:18 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Brian37 - February 17, 2020 at 8:26 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 17, 2020 at 8:30 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by no one - February 17, 2020 at 8:22 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Brian37 - February 17, 2020 at 8:35 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Peebo-Thuhlu - February 18, 2020 at 3:25 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - February 18, 2020 at 8:44 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Chad32 - February 18, 2020 at 12:52 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - February 18, 2020 at 11:47 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by WinterHold - February 18, 2020 at 11:51 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - February 18, 2020 at 11:50 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - February 18, 2020 at 11:53 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by WinterHold - February 18, 2020 at 12:04 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Nay_Sayer - February 18, 2020 at 12:13 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - February 18, 2020 at 12:25 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by WinterHold - February 18, 2020 at 1:05 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - February 18, 2020 at 1:09 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - February 18, 2020 at 1:13 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by WinterHold - February 18, 2020 at 1:37 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - February 18, 2020 at 2:08 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Nay_Sayer - February 18, 2020 at 4:04 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by LastPoet - February 18, 2020 at 2:45 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - February 18, 2020 at 4:15 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by WinterHold - February 18, 2020 at 4:22 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - February 18, 2020 at 4:27 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by WinterHold - February 18, 2020 at 5:58 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - February 18, 2020 at 6:22 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Chad32 - February 18, 2020 at 6:48 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by WinterHold - February 18, 2020 at 8:11 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Chad32 - February 18, 2020 at 9:27 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 18, 2020 at 11:08 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 19, 2020 at 7:48 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by WinterHold - February 19, 2020 at 4:15 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Abaddon_ire - February 20, 2020 at 9:23 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Abaddon_ire - February 19, 2020 at 9:56 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Mister Agenda - February 19, 2020 at 11:16 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by WinterHold - February 19, 2020 at 4:52 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Chad32 - February 19, 2020 at 5:08 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by WinterHold - February 20, 2020 at 5:38 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 20, 2020 at 7:01 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Deesse23 - February 20, 2020 at 7:33 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Chad32 - February 20, 2020 at 9:18 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by WinterHold - February 21, 2020 at 11:00 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Chad32 - February 21, 2020 at 11:36 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by WinterHold - February 21, 2020 at 12:58 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Chad32 - February 21, 2020 at 1:53 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by WinterHold - February 21, 2020 at 2:46 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Chad32 - February 21, 2020 at 2:55 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by WinterHold - February 21, 2020 at 3:17 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 21, 2020 at 1:43 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Mister Agenda - February 20, 2020 at 10:53 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Architect Of Fate - February 18, 2020 at 8:14 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - February 19, 2020 at 1:07 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Brian37 - February 19, 2020 at 2:07 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 19, 2020 at 2:39 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by arewethereyet - February 19, 2020 at 3:23 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - February 19, 2020 at 1:17 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 19, 2020 at 1:31 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - February 19, 2020 at 1:35 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - February 19, 2020 at 2:31 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - February 19, 2020 at 4:27 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - February 19, 2020 at 4:54 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 19, 2020 at 5:28 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 19, 2020 at 6:12 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Architect Of Fate - February 19, 2020 at 5:37 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 20, 2020 at 7:30 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by tackattack - February 20, 2020 at 11:44 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 20, 2020 at 12:06 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by LastPoet - February 20, 2020 at 1:24 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 20, 2020 at 2:34 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by LastPoet - February 22, 2020 at 1:02 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 22, 2020 at 1:31 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Abaddon_ire - February 20, 2020 at 12:26 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Chad32 - February 20, 2020 at 12:30 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - February 20, 2020 at 11:55 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - February 21, 2020 at 11:25 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - February 21, 2020 at 1:02 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 21, 2020 at 2:22 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 21, 2020 at 2:31 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 21, 2020 at 3:03 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Mr Greene - February 21, 2020 at 1:15 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - February 21, 2020 at 1:50 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by LastPoet - February 21, 2020 at 2:43 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - February 21, 2020 at 2:45 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 21, 2020 at 3:18 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - February 21, 2020 at 2:49 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by tackattack - February 21, 2020 at 3:19 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Mr Greene - February 21, 2020 at 6:27 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 21, 2020 at 6:57 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by WinterHold - February 22, 2020 at 4:58 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 22, 2020 at 8:18 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 22, 2020 at 8:47 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by WinterHold - February 25, 2020 at 9:35 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Mr Greene - February 23, 2020 at 8:18 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - February 21, 2020 at 8:29 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 22, 2020 at 7:41 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - February 22, 2020 at 7:47 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - February 22, 2020 at 8:36 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 22, 2020 at 8:49 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 22, 2020 at 9:00 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 22, 2020 at 9:28 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 22, 2020 at 9:37 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 22, 2020 at 9:48 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - February 22, 2020 at 8:50 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 22, 2020 at 9:50 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by tackattack - February 24, 2020 at 11:35 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 24, 2020 at 1:17 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 24, 2020 at 1:28 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Mister Agenda - February 24, 2020 at 11:38 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Silver - February 24, 2020 at 11:42 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 24, 2020 at 1:40 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 25, 2020 at 9:51 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by WinterHold - February 25, 2020 at 10:10 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 25, 2020 at 12:27 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by WinterHold - February 25, 2020 at 2:00 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 25, 2020 at 2:16 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by WinterHold - February 25, 2020 at 5:01 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 25, 2020 at 5:07 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 25, 2020 at 6:58 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by WinterHold - February 25, 2020 at 9:39 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 26, 2020 at 7:07 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 26, 2020 at 7:12 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by WinterHold - February 26, 2020 at 9:17 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 26, 2020 at 9:24 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by WinterHold - February 26, 2020 at 12:32 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 26, 2020 at 12:50 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by WinterHold - February 27, 2020 at 1:58 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 27, 2020 at 2:15 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by WinterHold - February 28, 2020 at 9:59 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Abaddon_ire - February 26, 2020 at 2:10 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Mister Agenda - February 27, 2020 at 9:38 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Deesse23 - February 27, 2020 at 11:57 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 25, 2020 at 2:22 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Brian37 - February 25, 2020 at 1:34 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - February 25, 2020 at 10:11 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Mister Agenda - February 25, 2020 at 10:40 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by WinterHold - February 25, 2020 at 12:10 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Deesse23 - February 25, 2020 at 1:36 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 25, 2020 at 1:43 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Mister Agenda - February 26, 2020 at 10:20 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 26, 2020 at 10:41 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Deesse23 - February 25, 2020 at 2:20 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by WinterHold - February 25, 2020 at 5:14 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 25, 2020 at 8:23 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Deesse23 - February 26, 2020 at 2:51 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - February 25, 2020 at 5:19 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Mr Greene - February 25, 2020 at 9:44 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 26, 2020 at 8:02 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by LastPoet - February 26, 2020 at 9:25 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - February 26, 2020 at 10:12 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - February 27, 2020 at 9:45 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - February 27, 2020 at 4:49 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 27, 2020 at 4:57 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 29, 2020 at 6:16 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by LastPoet - February 29, 2020 at 6:21 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - February 29, 2020 at 9:34 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 29, 2020 at 12:48 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 29, 2020 at 1:11 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 29, 2020 at 2:29 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 29, 2020 at 2:54 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 29, 2020 at 2:59 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by SuicideCommando01 - April 26, 2020 at 3:14 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by theMadJW - April 26, 2020 at 4:54 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by SuicideCommando01 - April 26, 2020 at 5:54 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Mr Greene - April 26, 2020 at 4:57 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by theMadJW - April 26, 2020 at 5:02 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Fake Messiah - April 26, 2020 at 5:10 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by theMadJW - April 26, 2020 at 8:25 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by SuicideCommando01 - April 26, 2020 at 9:41 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by theMadJW - April 30, 2020 at 1:54 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - April 30, 2020 at 3:31 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - April 30, 2020 at 2:23 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by theMadJW - April 30, 2020 at 3:49 pm

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