Currently people are discussing me in the Shoutbox. There isn't room there for me to respond adequately.
Here is a recent post:
Obviously this is not standard English. As far as I can tell, the poster is saying that I am trying to quibble in order to make Bruno's execution "something less than an indictment of the Christianity."
I do not see Bruno's execution as an indictment of "the" Christianity. Because Christianity is a lot of things, and there is not just one thing that is "the" Christianity.
It is certainly an indictment of the Catholic Church at that time. They used force to silence someone who wanted to overthrow them and replace them with an equally wacko occult movement.
I have argued that the church took this action due to a challenge to its power. It had nothing to do with science. Bruno was not a scientist.
If Bruno were posting his ideas on this forum, the same people who are criticizing me would be insulting him. His ideas are as unbelievable as the very worst of Christianity. Somehow he has become a poster boy for New Atheists because, I guess, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
I have only argued that people should not misrepresent the reasons behind his execution.
The "conflict theory," which says that religion is always opposed to science, is false. History shows that no such opposition is typical or consistent.
To be clear, let me repeat a number of things which I have said, which don't seem to be getting through:
~ The execution was bad.
~ It is bad to burn people.
~ Powerful institutions, when challenged, are likely to respond with violence.
~ Responding with violence is almost always bad.
Here is a recent post:
Quote:Bruno execution had everything to do with the church forcing its bullshit upon those who would rather not buy that particular bullshit, and you can count on belacque to quibble about that present it as if it something less than an indictment of the Christianity.
Obviously this is not standard English. As far as I can tell, the poster is saying that I am trying to quibble in order to make Bruno's execution "something less than an indictment of the Christianity."
I do not see Bruno's execution as an indictment of "the" Christianity. Because Christianity is a lot of things, and there is not just one thing that is "the" Christianity.
It is certainly an indictment of the Catholic Church at that time. They used force to silence someone who wanted to overthrow them and replace them with an equally wacko occult movement.
I have argued that the church took this action due to a challenge to its power. It had nothing to do with science. Bruno was not a scientist.
If Bruno were posting his ideas on this forum, the same people who are criticizing me would be insulting him. His ideas are as unbelievable as the very worst of Christianity. Somehow he has become a poster boy for New Atheists because, I guess, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
I have only argued that people should not misrepresent the reasons behind his execution.
The "conflict theory," which says that religion is always opposed to science, is false. History shows that no such opposition is typical or consistent.
To be clear, let me repeat a number of things which I have said, which don't seem to be getting through:
~ The execution was bad.
~ It is bad to burn people.
~ Powerful institutions, when challenged, are likely to respond with violence.
~ Responding with violence is almost always bad.
