RE: Hell is justified.
February 20, 2020 at 5:38 am
(This post was last modified: February 20, 2020 at 5:45 am by WinterHold.)
(February 19, 2020 at 5:08 pm)Chad32 Wrote:(February 19, 2020 at 4:52 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: The exception is that God is a rational entity. He acts with constraints that he himself obligated himself to act upon; the Quran -which I believe in- listed many of these constraints.
Animals are not rational. The "mercy" for example is a constraint that God obligated himself to; thus you can see people "live, love, smile, laugh...", but "justice" is also another obligation God has; thus hell and suffering exist.
We're also rational being with constraints, but most of us don't derive pleasure from torture and killing. In fact we don't generally kill at all, if we can help it. Except for that low percent of the population that are psychopaths. Now if your god is so powerful, and so knowledgeable, he should be able to figure out solutions that don't involve killing people, but he chooses to do it. He declared that everyone deserves death since the day they're born. So he's a psychopath who doesn't understand mercy, or justice. When you're only merciful to those who worship you, that's not real mercy. Even Hitler could show that kind of mercy.
Pleasure is not among the constraints that God acts upon; actually the Quran states explicitly that God "didn't create the universe to play":
Quote:Sura 44, The Quran:
https://quran.ksu.edu.sa/index.php?l=en#...rans=en_sh
( 38 ) And We did not create the heavens and earth and that between them in play.
( 39 ) We did not create them except in truth, but most of them do not know.
So "pleasure" is a feature incompatible to the God I believe in.
(February 19, 2020 at 5:28 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:Quote:Animals are not rational. The "mercy" for example is a constraint that God obligated himself to; thus you can see people "live, love, smile, laugh...", but "justice" is also another obligation God has; thus hell and suffering exist.
One cannot be both merciful and just. Justice negates mercy.
Boru
Yes they can in my opinion.