(February 21, 2020 at 11:36 am)Chad32 Wrote:(February 21, 2020 at 11:00 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: I'm surprised that the "72 virgins" rightist joke is still circulating; I don't believe in this so you can just move on because it is totally...ignorant and makes me feel sad for you to believe in such thing.
Of course you can show both if you're a God, capable of anything. Unless you are speaking about "Shiva or the Evangelical Jesus", then you and I will never find a mutual ground for discussion because you insist on treating "God in Islam" as an "Anthropomorphism" freak resulting from human mind.
Probably for the best that there isn't 72 virgins. That's kind of weird on its own. So your god is in no way Human-like. It's just this eldritch creature that we can't relate to, who tortures people when it has nothing better to do. Completely alien, and horrifying. Like trying to appease the storm, or the volcano, so it doesn't do as much damage as it could.
Of course we can't relate to God unless we want to be "Gods"; just like the ancient Greeks or ancient Egyptians. The only problem is that we aren't Gods, we can't even relate to God.
Here I suggest that we relate to another thing that we understand: our human nature.
Being mere "humans" with "flaws" and "weaknesses" will make us understand and realize that we need "God"; ego and child-dreams of nations before us about becoming "Gods" would evaporate, and instead of ego we will embrace humility.
Yes there is a God above us that tortures anybody who crosses the lines he drew; instead of having "child-dreams" or let me say "Satanic dreams" about becoming Gods ourselves, let's admit that we know nothing about God but what he revealed about himself, he is the eternal refugee, he is what keeping life and the universe alive, his mercy covers all and his punishment is subject to his justice.
