Agnosticism IS the most dishonest position

[The Architect Of Fate]

If a just god created the earth it should be paradise their is no rational reason it's should not be and all humans should be flawless saints  by nature nor would we need an after life  .What we get instead is delusional theists  trying desperately to rationalize away what we actually see a universe that only makes sense without their crap .

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I didn't intend for that to be a complete case for heaven, all I'm saying is that what's actually happening is what a just God would do, if he exists.

If you say so, I guess?  Does it matter, if I don't care whether there's a heaven, or a god..or if it's your heaven, or your god?  No.  I don't want to join your club.  How can I make this more clear?

That's a vacuous reasoning. You're not really saying much except describing some existent reality. And any really fine tuned universe will have the same tautologically true stuff you're talking about. 

If you say so...there are two possible ways that all of that true stuff can be.  One of them is absent any god.  That makes god unnecessary.

Again, you can say the same thing about a chair wired to fit the human body, and even derive your own chairtropic principle. None of that changes the fact that the chair was designed.

Do you really reject the anthropic principle?  Isn't the anthropic principle exactly why you think some god is needed?  Something has to account for the requirements of mans existence, and any cosmological notion must account for those requirements?

I don't think that you've thought this through.  Not enough to convince someone that your fairy tales are credible..and certainly not enough to convince someone to join your club, if you managed that.

Accept needs to account for it .it's sufficient that it is