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Poverty
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RE: Poverty
(October 24, 2011 at 2:45 am)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:as communism obviously doesn't work.

But was communism ever tried?

Marx envisioned the industrial proletariat rising up to seize the means of production from the bourgeois. What happened was a rising of agricultural peasants in Russia which led to immediate civil war and instead of the state withering away a massive bureaucracy developed.

Lenin argued the Theory of Imperialism which held: In Lenin’s developing Marxism for Russian application, Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism (1916) explains a development which Marx predicted: capitalism’s becoming a global system wherein advanced capitalist industrial nations export financial capital to colonial countries to exploit their resources and labour.

Marx may have simply been ahead of his time. The republicolibertarianeo-conazis may ultimately be the best thing that ever happened to communism. Marx may make a comeback.

I say Marx was ahead of his time. His ideas and theories have never completely gone away, it's just that right-wing orthodoxy has held sway from the 1980's onwards and Marxism is not as out there as it was. And I expect his ideas will make a big comeback as the world financial crises continue apace.
(October 24, 2011 at 4:30 am)frankiej Wrote: Personally, I'm going to go all Robin Hood to do my bit Tongue

One of my all-time heroes...a socialist in green tights
HuhA man is born to a virgin mother, lives, dies, comes alive again and then disappears into the clouds to become his Dad. How likely is that?
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Poverty - by thesummerqueen - October 23, 2011 at 1:05 pm
RE: Poverty - by Epimethean - October 23, 2011 at 1:13 pm
RE: Poverty - by thesummerqueen - October 23, 2011 at 1:14 pm
RE: Poverty - by bozo - October 23, 2011 at 4:38 pm
RE: Poverty - by edk - October 23, 2011 at 5:23 pm
RE: Poverty - by reverendjeremiah - October 23, 2011 at 6:05 pm
RE: Poverty - by bozo - October 23, 2011 at 6:34 pm
RE: Poverty - by edk - October 23, 2011 at 9:03 pm
RE: Poverty - by Welsh cake - October 23, 2011 at 2:15 pm
RE: Poverty - by reverendjeremiah - October 23, 2011 at 2:55 pm
RE: Poverty - by Autumnlicious - October 23, 2011 at 4:13 pm
RE: Poverty - by reverendjeremiah - October 23, 2011 at 5:09 pm
RE: Poverty - by thesummerqueen - October 23, 2011 at 5:43 pm
RE: Poverty - by Autumnlicious - October 23, 2011 at 7:29 pm
RE: Poverty - by SophiaGrace - October 23, 2011 at 9:10 pm
RE: Poverty - by reverendjeremiah - October 23, 2011 at 9:20 pm
RE: Poverty - by SophiaGrace - October 23, 2011 at 9:29 pm
RE: Poverty - by reverendjeremiah - October 23, 2011 at 9:35 pm
RE: Poverty - by SophiaGrace - October 23, 2011 at 9:36 pm
RE: Poverty - by Shell B - October 23, 2011 at 9:33 pm
RE: Poverty - by thesummerqueen - October 23, 2011 at 9:37 pm
RE: Poverty - by reverendjeremiah - October 23, 2011 at 9:40 pm
RE: Poverty - by SophiaGrace - October 24, 2011 at 8:49 am
RE: Poverty - by Autumnlicious - October 23, 2011 at 10:38 pm
RE: Poverty - by edk - October 24, 2011 at 6:53 am
RE: Poverty - by reverendjeremiah - October 23, 2011 at 11:19 pm
RE: Poverty - by Violet - October 24, 2011 at 6:48 am
RE: Poverty - by frankiej - October 24, 2011 at 6:57 am
RE: Poverty - by Minimalist - October 24, 2011 at 2:45 am
RE: Poverty - by kılıç_mehmet - October 24, 2011 at 3:49 am
RE: Poverty - by bozo - October 24, 2011 at 2:20 pm
RE: Poverty - by frankiej - October 24, 2011 at 4:30 am
RE: Poverty - by kılıç_mehmet - October 24, 2011 at 4:33 am
RE: Poverty - by frankiej - October 24, 2011 at 4:36 am
RE: Poverty - by kılıç_mehmet - October 24, 2011 at 4:38 am
RE: Poverty - by frankiej - October 24, 2011 at 4:42 am
RE: Poverty - by kılıç_mehmet - October 24, 2011 at 4:44 am
RE: Poverty - by fr0d0 - October 24, 2011 at 6:34 am
RE: Poverty - by frankiej - October 24, 2011 at 6:49 am
RE: Poverty - by thesummerqueen - October 24, 2011 at 7:07 am
RE: Poverty - by Violet - October 24, 2011 at 7:10 am
RE: Poverty - by thesummerqueen - October 24, 2011 at 7:13 am
RE: Poverty - by frankiej - October 24, 2011 at 7:16 am
RE: Poverty - by edk - October 24, 2011 at 7:12 am
RE: Poverty - by frankiej - October 24, 2011 at 7:09 am
RE: Poverty - by thesummerqueen - October 24, 2011 at 7:12 am
RE: Poverty - by reverendjeremiah - October 24, 2011 at 10:05 am
RE: Poverty - by thesummerqueen - October 24, 2011 at 12:08 pm
RE: Poverty - by frankiej - October 24, 2011 at 7:13 am
RE: Poverty - by fr0d0 - October 24, 2011 at 7:33 am
RE: Poverty - by Mister Agenda - October 24, 2011 at 11:40 am
RE: Poverty - by bozo - October 24, 2011 at 3:50 pm
RE: Poverty - by Mister Agenda - October 25, 2011 at 11:19 am
RE: Poverty - by Minimalist - October 24, 2011 at 1:38 pm
RE: Poverty - by paintpooper - October 24, 2011 at 1:51 pm
RE: Poverty - by Autumnlicious - October 24, 2011 at 5:40 pm
RE: Poverty - by edk - October 24, 2011 at 6:55 pm
RE: Poverty - by Autumnlicious - October 24, 2011 at 7:13 pm
RE: Poverty - by Mister Agenda - October 25, 2011 at 12:38 pm
RE: Poverty - by Jay1982 - October 25, 2011 at 1:03 pm
RE: Poverty - by paintpooper - October 25, 2011 at 1:36 pm
RE: Poverty - by The Grand Nudger - October 25, 2011 at 1:07 pm
RE: Poverty - by Mister Agenda - October 25, 2011 at 2:09 pm
RE: Poverty - by The Grand Nudger - October 25, 2011 at 2:15 pm
RE: Poverty - by Mister Agenda - October 25, 2011 at 2:35 pm

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