Devolution

[Abaddon_ire]

Of course good luck getting them to answer what would count as non designed .

That is an interesting question. One I have asked many times without any actual answer. Because they have no idea what an undesigned universe might be like.

A case in point is the watchmaker argument. If you were walking along a sandy beach and found a watch, you would immediately know it had been designed. My next question to that is always this.

Did not your god specifically design every grain of sand on that beach? Yes or no?

If yes, then you cannot distinguish any design because everything must perforce be designed.

If no, then your god did not design everything.

That is usually greeted with a whole lot of silence.